63' Starter Help? (Advice needed at bottom)
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From: Bolivar, MO>
check the pn of the new one and make sure it crosses over to the new starter pn. remove it and make sure the bendix and gear is in good shape. also bar that engine over while the starter is off and check ALL the ring gear teeth for damage. then aske your parts store to doublecheck the pn an amke sure its right for your app. let us know what you come up with
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Ok, The starter that is in it is the longest lasting one so far, and it just went out. Got 5 starts on it before it grinded a little bit and then started just spinning. Man, this is my 4th starter. 
The many times I had the starter out , the ring gear looked great, not a single tooth missing. If anybody has the 77-79 manual, could you take a picture of any page that has the picture of the starter or any info (for the 400)?
Im thinking of just taking the starter back to checkers. Would I have any luck getting a more expensive starter?
The many times I had the starter out , the ring gear looked great, not a single tooth missing. If anybody has the 77-79 manual, could you take a picture of any page that has the picture of the starter or any info (for the 400)?
Im thinking of just taking the starter back to checkers. Would I have any luck getting a more expensive starter?
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so are you burning up the starters, burning out the solenoids, grinding the bendix gears? not exactly sure what is happening. Have you taken the starter to be tested at the auto parts place?
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It starts purfectly 3 times and then the starter just grinds, then doesnt engage at all. Passed test at autoparts store........ totally puzzled. Should I maybe try a high torque starter?
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I listened to the video and it sounds more like the starter is not engaging the flywheel correctly than anything else.
Is there any way the truck could have the wrong flywheel? After the starter quits working do the teeth on the starter still look good, or is it grinding them off the new starters?
Is there any way the truck could have the wrong flywheel? After the starter quits working do the teeth on the starter still look good, or is it grinding them off the new starters?
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351C = 1970/74 Passenger Cars only.
351M: 1975/79 Passenger Cars / 1977/79 F100/350 / 1978/82 Bronco / 1980/82 F150/350 & Econoline.
400: 1971/79 Passenger Cars / 1977/79 F100/350 / 1978/82 Bronco / 1980/82 F150/350 & Econoline.
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From: Arvada, Co
Teeth on the starter look fine after removal. I think that its not coming out enough to engage, so It just grinds.....
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Is there enough power getting to the starter to allow it to fully engage properly. I would make sure all the wiring is good and not corroded and make sure you have a real good battery and even bench test the starter. Maybe put a volt meter on the solenoid post which goes down to the starter so when the key is turned you can see how much voltage is going to the starter. Also make sure you have a good ground from your battery to the frame and to the engine.
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Go to a parts store, ask to see a starter for a 1971/82 400, then compare it to yours.
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Dont know if this help or not. Thirty years ago i changed my starter on my 66 4x4 with the 300 6 cyinder ,and the starter had a different length nose on the starter where it bolted on the bell housing. I cant rember if it was longer or shorter but it was a similiar problem grinding the srarter teeth. I couldnt figure what was happening , just lucky i kept the old core and noticed the differnt lengths.
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I cant remember if it was heres longer or shorter but it was a similiar problem grinding the srarter teeth. I couldnt figure what was happening , just lucky i kept the old core and noticed the differnt lengths.
Agreed check this out .... I think there is 2 (maybe 3) starters that fit.
Agreed check this out .... I think there is 2 (maybe 3) starters that fit.
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do you know how much of the vehicle is stock? my be a different drivetrain, that requires a higher voltage supply to produce the right amount of torque. Which, if you were recharging you battery everytime you changed your started, this would explain why you only get 2 or 3 starts. Once the power source degrades, no enough power to spin the starter properly
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From: Bolivar, MO>
they are right about checking the starter i had one go bad on my 66 352 and the new ones wouldnt even bolt up. the books showed several starters according to the parts guy. after looking at the old core we were able to match the starter up correctly.
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From: Arvada, Co
do you know how much of the vehicle is stock? my be a different drivetrain, that requires a higher voltage supply to produce the right amount of torque. Which, if you were recharging you battery everytime you changed your started, this would explain why you only get 2 or 3 starts. Once the power source degrades, no enough power to spin the starter properly
That may be possible, im going to put the starter back in (took it out an hour ago) Start it untill I have the problem, charge the battery, and try starting it again. Never thought of that.....
