New HD power numbers released!
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New HD power numbers released!
New diesel: 390hp 735ft/lbs
New 6.2: 385hp 405ft/lbs
Wow huh? Towing numbers bumped too.
You heard it here first! Ford Announces 2011 F-Series Super Duty Power and Pulling Specs - PickupTrucks.com News
New 6.2: 385hp 405ft/lbs
Wow huh? Towing numbers bumped too.
You heard it here first! Ford Announces 2011 F-Series Super Duty Power and Pulling Specs - PickupTrucks.com News
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Ok guys get out there and buy these trucks to get the bugs worked out. I should be ready for a new one in 3.5 years.
Be interesting in 2013 when all the company's have to use the same method for Trailer pulling specs.
Be interesting in 2013 when all the company's have to use the same method for Trailer pulling specs.
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I don't like the gas numbers. That new trans better be a miracle worker. Peak torque at 4600 rpm. I wonder what the rpm range is where the torque curve is flat?
In a short time when dodge comes out with the 6.4l hemi and 6 sp auto, how is Ford going to answer? There is no way a 3 valve ford 6.2l is going to compete. It is going to be a worse situation then when the 5.4l was competing against the hemi.
At least with the 5.4l, it was setup different. It had better low end pulling power. Now with the 6.2l shifting its power higher in the rpm range like the hemi .... well, like I said, that new trans better be a miracle worker.
In a short time when dodge comes out with the 6.4l hemi and 6 sp auto, how is Ford going to answer? There is no way a 3 valve ford 6.2l is going to compete. It is going to be a worse situation then when the 5.4l was competing against the hemi.
At least with the 5.4l, it was setup different. It had better low end pulling power. Now with the 6.2l shifting its power higher in the rpm range like the hemi .... well, like I said, that new trans better be a miracle worker.
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This forum needs to quit comparing just the HP and TQ numbers. The Dodge truck is no match for our Superduty. Quality, strength of parts, reliability, all are better than the competition. So what if a new hemi has more power, dodge needs a better trans to be behind it than they have. The only thing that dodge has going for it is it's ability to keep the cummins engine in the HD trucks, thats it, IMO.
The biggest difference between the 6.2 V8 and 6.8 V10 will be fuel mileage. Yes, it lost some torque, but you probably will not notice it. And if it's a 3 Valve, it will have a broad torque curve, and even more so if it has VVT. The torque curve was one of the big selling points of the 3 valve engines. 80% of the available torque was ready at 1200 rpms. So about 325 ft/lbs just off idle. if the 405 peak is correct. I agree with others that think that the engine is de-tuned. There will be a big after market for the 6.2L
Edit: I should have read the article first no 3 valve 6.2, but it is still beating the dodge hemi, for now.
The biggest difference between the 6.2 V8 and 6.8 V10 will be fuel mileage. Yes, it lost some torque, but you probably will not notice it. And if it's a 3 Valve, it will have a broad torque curve, and even more so if it has VVT. The torque curve was one of the big selling points of the 3 valve engines. 80% of the available torque was ready at 1200 rpms. So about 325 ft/lbs just off idle. if the 405 peak is correct. I agree with others that think that the engine is de-tuned. There will be a big after market for the 6.2L
Edit: I should have read the article first no 3 valve 6.2, but it is still beating the dodge hemi, for now.
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You have the 19.5 in wheel option, which makes it able to put on long wearing Semi Tires. and a smoother ride. Have you seen a F-450 up close? these things are HUGE. I sat next to a 2010 in traffic the other day. If I hadn'e looked twice, I would have sworn it was a f-650 with a bed, you know the ones, the super trucks. I was impressed with the size, It really sits high, and looks solid as hell.
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I don't like the gas numbers. That new trans better be a miracle worker. Peak torque at 4600 rpm. I wonder what the rpm range is where the torque curve is flat?
In a short time when dodge comes out with the 6.4l hemi and 6 sp auto, how is Ford going to answer? There is no way a 3 valve ford 6.2l is going to compete. It is going to be a worse situation then when the 5.4l was competing against the hemi.
At least with the 5.4l, it was setup different. It had better low end pulling power. Now with the 6.2l shifting its power higher in the rpm range like the hemi .... well, like I said, that new trans better be a miracle worker.
In a short time when dodge comes out with the 6.4l hemi and 6 sp auto, how is Ford going to answer? There is no way a 3 valve ford 6.2l is going to compete. It is going to be a worse situation then when the 5.4l was competing against the hemi.
At least with the 5.4l, it was setup different. It had better low end pulling power. Now with the 6.2l shifting its power higher in the rpm range like the hemi .... well, like I said, that new trans better be a miracle worker.
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You have the 19.5 in wheel option, which makes it able to put on long wearing Semi Tires. and a smoother ride. Have you seen a F-450 up close? these things are HUGE. I sat next to a 2010 in traffic the other day. If I hadn'e looked twice, I would have sworn it was a f-650 with a bed, you know the ones, the super trucks. I was impressed with the size, It really sits high, and looks solid as hell.
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1. Pulling harder than a 5.4 isn't saying much. That should be a given.
2. There isn't any gas engine to replace the lost V-10.
3. You have to go diesel to get more power than a half ton Tundra.
