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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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injector o rings

how can you tell if they are bad? truck started runnig crappy today. oil level is in the over fillled mark.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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how can you tell if they are bad? truck started runnig crappy today. oil level is in the over fillled mark.
did you over fill the oil yourself??? see if the oil has any diesel in it just for fun since it's over filled.

fire the truck up and free rev it, i mean pedal to the floor free rev. if it revs slowly then all of a sudden when it gets to around 2500rpms it frees up and revs fast to redline then you may have some bad injector o-rings.

What is your truck doing for it to be running bad? did you check fuel pressure? no CEL?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
did you over fill the oil yourself??? see if the oil has any diesel in it just for fun since it's over filled.

fire the truck up and free rev it, i mean pedal to the floor free rev. if it revs slowly then all of a sudden when it gets to around 2500rpms it frees up and revs fast to redline then you may have some bad injector o-rings.

What is your truck doing for it to be running bad? did you check fuel pressure? no CEL?
Slow down strokin. Want to blow a motor!

OP
You need to see if its fuel or coolant that is rising the oil.
Let it sit a bit. Sniff the level stick then pull the drain plug on the pan. Just dump
a sample of the oil. Do the look and sniff.
Fuel is on top and coolant is on the bottom.

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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:02 PM
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i didnt over fill it, in fact i have a leaking cooler so i check it everyday till i get it fixed. sudden loss of power, killed like it was running out of fuel. drove it like that for about 3 miles. now it seems to be running fine. how can i tell if diesel is in the oil, it smells like diesel, and was bubbly, but i had just shut it off
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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sorry Bill. was just sayin' thats one way u can tell if the injector o-rings may be bad. didn't mean to rev it like past 3000 rpm or rev it like that cold or anything. haha. don't wanna blow any engines so i'm with ya. LoL

i believe one way to tell if there is fuel in it is to pull the dipstick and put a dab on a paper towel. if there is fuel in it then a wet spot will appear around the oil spot.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
sorry Bill. was just sayin' thats one way u can tell if the injector o-rings may be bad. didn't mean to rev it like past 3000 rpm or rev it like that cold or anything. haha. don't wanna blow any engines so i'm with ya. LoL
Nothing to be sorry about.
Problem is the oil level is high.
Best is to see why first. I for one want
oil in my bearings not coolant.

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You have external oil cooler leaks.
Its a good chance you are also leaking coolant into the motor.
Has the coolant level fallen?

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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:27 PM
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good call Bill, i love keeping up with your posts. i learn quite a bit just from reading a lot of your posts. except for the dancing bananas.. LOL

side note, whats with all the oil coolers this year. it's crazy!!! i guess the oil cooler will crack inside the tube and allow the 2 to mix, but if there is diesel in there then what could it be? possibly the injector cups?
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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I believe OP might have smelled fuel in the oil.
This would rule out a cooler internal leak.
Problem is if inj o-ring fails between the fuel and oil
you get oil in the fuel due to the oil pressure is much higher.
Fuel in oil is another story.

Time will tell
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:40 PM
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When my o-rings went out the engine would not sputter unless it was in gear. I'd be going down the interstate and give it some throttle to pass someone and she'd smoke and sputter.
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by MADVAN
I believe OP might have smelled fuel in the oil.
This would rule out a cooler internal leak.
Problem is if inj o-ring fails between the fuel and oil
you get oil in the fuel due to the oil pressure is much higher.
Fuel in oil is another story.

Time will tell
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ok so if injector o-ring then oil will get into fuel before fuel in the oil. got it. i didn't think about the oil pressure being higher than fuel pressure, but then again i don't even no what these trucks run for oil pressure. wonder where fuel would get into the oil then since the oil is at a high pressure than the fuel.... unless its getting fuel in the oil at idle b/c if he has the FPR shimmed then he should be seeing around 60+ psi of fuel pressure and i'm sure we don't see that for oil pressure at idle. so maybe it's doing both, fuel in oil and oil in fuel. not sure, just tossing out ideas.

chicago, have you looked at the fuel in your fuel bowl??? see what color the fuel in the fuel bowl is...
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 02:52 PM
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When my o-rings went out the engine would not sputter unless it was in gear. I'd be going down the interstate and give it some throttle to pass someone and she'd smoke and sputter.
Agree with ya Farm.
Oil pressure loss and its burning a oil/fuel mix or
just oil blown out the top of the inj and less fuel atom.


Can you remember how much if any oil you were burning off before
the failure was found. Just allways had thoughts it could be caught
early from the loss of oil. (before the failure)
This is with thoughts of the failure being on the bottom of the inj not the top.
Was the o-ring failure out the bottom or top? High % is top.(no oil loss)

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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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whetever it was, went away. and the cooler is leaking at an end cap, not internaly, i hope
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by chicagodragon
whetever it was, went away. and the cooler is leaking at an end cap, not internaly, i hope
if it's leaking internally you will have coolant in the oil. figure out whats getting in your oil so we know where to get you to start looking and so our resident expert can give us some more clues on what can be happening.

resident expert=Bill
 
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Old Feb 24, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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resident expert=Bill
Not an expert, Just full of useless info.
BTW at idle the oil pressure is still much higher than the fuel.
What is your idle ICP? ICP is your oil pressure.

OP
We mucked up your tread.
Just get a look to see which it is. fuel/coolant.
Oil level just does not rise.
The issue did not go away. This does not ruleout that
the oil has not been changed in ages. Fuel in oil could build over time.

Bill
 
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no problem on the hijacking. what do you mean by OP?
 
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