Yes, but is that same use being used in the automative world as well? I have yet to see a dealership use bluetooth in their diagnosing. Now I don't know why, that information may not be being sent in small packets in order for that to be feasible or there might be a total unrelated reason. Or they may be used at dealerships that I don't go to. I only know what I have experience with. Your talking about the aviation industry, what they may be doing may not be what's going on in the automative industry, especially by SCT, or any of the auto companies.

All I know is what my experience is with products that I have at my disposal, not what the aviation industry has at their disposal.

 

I will say I have had my share of problems with bluetooth getting it to communicate with a certain computer seems once the connection is made initially it is rock solid from then on. Being I am a EEE Electrical Electronics Engineer, A+ Computer Tech , MCSE Microsoft Certified Engineer I can spout the technical side all day but I also pride myself on having a lot of common sense and would never say 100% anything would work everytime without some unforseen problem. I would think if a company put a product out it would have the proper testing and would work as advertised but then we all know that isn't always true.

 

very good follow up, I like Humble, all day! but this is why I would love to see some feedback from someone who has one and uses it, seems like it is not a very hot seller. like you state i would hope a company that sells something would ensure it works, but i have been a guiney pig before due to new technology, and alot of companies can't afford proper R&D and keep the price competitive. maybe a magazine will do a write up on it.

 

Absolutely true. There are alot of things that I would agree on and I'm sure bluetooth technology will get even better both on the side of transmitting and receiving, but you have to remember we are talking about computers on older vehicles, as well, so while you may have a product that is up to date, your trying to mate it to a product that is going to be 2 engine generations behind. I would imagine it's pretty far behind in electrical tech as well.

I also have been around enough to know that what is available as far as industry use is not exactly the same thing that translates to civilian use either. I have pretty sophisticated analytical software that would blow the general public away with what it can do, but for the most part the average joe blow just has access to something like Excel(which is good don't get me wrong, but even as powerful as it is, it isn't the most powerful out there). That's the point I was trying to get at with regard to your aviation example.

 

check out the demo of the unit, although it is tested on a gasser mustang i'm sure function is the same New Tuner Reviewed: SCT Touch Screen Extreme - LSX TV Forums#

 

It sounds good... So why doesn't anyone one here have one? everyone can't be scared of the bluetooth. I also noticed most of the retailers that sell the tuners and not selling this model...

 

That's the one thing that has me not getting it if I was in the market for one.

After the discussion here, I hooked up my iPod Touch to the Bluetooth Sony radio(stock radio) that is in my F-150. I was going to compare it to the Motorola bluetooth headphones and there is a good 8 seconds delay between the iPod and the Sony Radio and there is no perceived delay between the Motorola and the iPod. The Sony is actually a more recent one, while the headphones are 2 yrs old.

That brings a question to my mind, does the SCT follow the Sony or does it follow the Motorola? I for one wouldn't want to test it as far as tuning goes. Getting sensors it's fine, but not with tuning. You also have to remember this is the only bluetooth automotive tuning device that the average joe can get ahold of(as far as I know about anyway).

Once again this is with technology that people can get their hands on, not what's being used in other industries. I would imagine that bluetooth follows the same path as GPS does when it comes to more sophistication with a major application(industry or military use) versus civilian use.

 

now, I'm confused. I understand your thought process. but there is a slight difference between you using two different bluetooth devices created with the same technology to communicate ,I can see slight differences in the two functioning identically, but doesn't the sct device utilize a transmitter receiver designed to work in conjunction with each other ? the device you connect to the OBD II port is included with this tuner. so there should not be a mismatch of brands right ?

 

No not necessarily. Let's say you use the AE with the bluetooth option. If it's PC based you are using whatever bluetooth company that your laptop uses or PDA depending on whichever platform you are using. The adaptor that plugs into the DLC connector(OBD connector) to make it bluetooth is of a different manufactor from your PC/PDA, they sub contract that out. That company to my knowledge(can't remember their name) does not make any bluetooth cards for the more well known computers that I'm familiar with, so that would for sure be two different companies.

Now it would all depend on how SCT handles their bluetooth option. Who makes the transmitter and receiver in their devices and is it the same as what attaches to the DLC connector(or built into the connector).

You are correct though though, you would think there wouldn't be any delay if it was from the same company between their own devices. It would just depend on how SCT handles it. There are some people that are better known for making adapters versus making the actual boards. Adaptors tend to be more generic in their approach, because you really don't know what application they might be used for, while cards(boards) that have that tech are usually designed with certain specs with a certain goal in mind. I learned alot about that when I built a few custom computers.


What I was really trying to show with my comparison is that there is delays in bluetooth and we are talking about delays with streaming audio. Compressed mono audio stream. I can't imagine that being more sophisticated then what the truck will be sending out, particularly handling different sensors at the same time and stuff like that. Now bluetooth might be better in the more commercial, industrial and military uses, but I doubt the tech behind SCT's device will have that kind of edge over the three devices I was messing with. I think it's a good novel idea, but I think it's an idea a little ahead of it's time. Until there is more consistency between devices in the bluetooth tech, I would be leary about using it. Mainly with the tuning aspect of it more then sensor retrieval. I could handle a delay in sensor retrieval, but not in tuning.

 

Does anyone know how long the battery lasts?

 

i have also been looking at the sct touch screen deal, and i would realy like to hear someone who has or had one before i get one. sounds like it could be a nice setup to have but the bluetooth thing i dont have much experiance with it. so it looks like nobody here has one?

 

hey if you have any questions about the TSX pm me i have one and know all the in's and outs on it. i personally like it but like i said pm me

 

Most of the trucks we are tuning (especially if 6.0) are older trucks and for those that WOULD tune it, probably already have a device and are happy with it...

heck, my xCal2 with recent tunes does a fine job of pushing my lil ex around....

like with most things, once you are happy with it you tend to stay with it
(until that 70" TV comes out that you HAVE to put in place of your 65" )