I have a 2010 F-350 6.4
To say I am unhappy is an under statement
Poor power and 11-12 MPG doesnt do it for me in a 56K truck
It has 3000 miles on it
I called the service manager on Friday to complain
He said Ford had de tuned the motors and that was the problem
He told me to get a tuner if I wanted to fix the problem
I called a local speed shop place here in mid atlantic and the Hyper Tech was the brand he sold and said I should use
Any thoughts?
Can this be harmful to the truck?
Thanks for any help....

 

just from what you wrote i will comment on hopefully i dont offend you..

you bought a $56k vehicle that weighs just shy of 9000lbs and you say has poor power..i will agree it lags off the start due to EPA regs but after that the 6.4 has great power i feel, it goes pretty good for pushing that much wieght.

if your service manager gave you the ok to hook a tunner up to it, then i would get him and the Ford store president to sign off that they will honor your warranty even after ford denies it for having a modded truck, unless your ok with no warranty.. but these trucks arent cheap to fix..

the tunner will make it go like a raped ape. but remember if you play be prepared to pay..

just my opinion.

koboss

 

I would be looking at Spartan if you are planning to get rid of the DPF. If you plan on leaving it on then what I have works real good.

 

I have owned diesels since 1997
As a matter of fact I still have that 1997 F-350 diesel
That 1997 has more power then this new truck
I have owned Dodge
2002 Ford F-350 diesel
2005 GMC diesel
2006 GMC diesel (still have this truck in the company)
2005 F-350 rack body diesel (still have this one)
I do understand they weigh a lot (I doubt it is 9000 pounds though)

But this is sad if you want to pass a car on a 2 lane road it is an adventure and you better have plenty of room


The dealer isnt going to tell Ford what they told me to do why would you bother saying that
And 10-11 combined for MPG is sad in 2010
It is nice you are sticking up for Ford but this isnt right

I cant wait to tow my 10k trailer with it I can stop at every other fuel stop and my foot will hurt after 1 hour from pushing the pedal to the floor lol

Nice looking truck but so far I am not impressed

 

I tow over 15,000#'s with mine in the mountains of northern utah, pulls like a freight train! Better than my modified 7.3, and 6.0, when the 6.4 was in stock form. I am Spartanized now, lost some E.P.A. crap, unbelievable power now! I'm guessing you have the 3:55 rear end? I know of a couple of people that have that rear end, and neither is satisfied with their power. Just my .02

 

I am think there is something wrong here. I have pull 10K blocks of marble and still got 11.2 mpg's. And of course my TT and cars and stuff. I have no issues with power!

 

i do believe it is 8800lbs i must of rounded up...

also i never said that your dealer would ever tell ford come on that would be just plain back stabing on there part..and hey car dealers are the first ones to trust....

what i was getting at is, if your truck ever? leaves you on the side of the road and you use your ford roadside assistance, they only take you to the nearest ford store for repair and they may tell Ford? if they arent mod friendly

that is why i bother saying that... just thinking outside of the box thats all.

but maybe you will never take it out of that town.. or hopefully never breakdown for ya.

good luck with your programer.

 

No one here is doubting your diesel experience but if you had done the research on these trucks anyone that owns one could have told you they are lacking in power and the MPG's aren't great. The same MPG's can be found on most diesels these days due to the tree hugger bull**** they strap to the exhaust on all of them. Koboss1 was simply offering his opinion and I believe it was you that asked for some advice at the beginning of this thread?? The trucks do weigh in at just under 9000lb, if you don't believe me neither then just drive to your local scale and check it out for yourself.

I have personally never heard of the Hyper Tech tuner but do some serious research before you plug anything into your trucks computer and be very aware that any tuning mods can and will instantly void your warranty. Any dealer that tells you otherwise is feeding you bull**** and I will guarantee you that they will never put anything in writing, nor will they warranty any major failures that are caused by a tuner.

The tuner that you will get the most info on around this forum is made by Spartan. I would highly recommend them but just do the research and you will see that I am not alone. I will not deny my truck was underpowered from day 1 and passing on the highway meant taking your life into your hands and hoping for the best. The truck really came alive after tuning and has never run better. Good Luck

 

First I thank all of you for your thoughts
I feel when people post on here they should do it with respect and kobos 1st post wasnt done that way
If the truck weighs 9000 then so dont the rest and in Dodge,Gmc ect
I have a good friend that has a 2009 dual wheel with the cummins he gets 16-17 between city and highway And I would say it weighs as much
Brandon even you say "passing on the highway is taking your life in your hands"
That doesnt agree at all with what kobo said he said"i will agree it lags off the start due to EPA regs but after that the 6.4 has great power"

When the dealer says put a program in it and he understands that is sad

Oh and I do have a friend that uses his Chevy for work and he gets 15-16 combined 2009 model
So 11-12 to me is **** poor
As far as hyper tech I have no idea either but a contractor I work for and who has a 2010 Ford 3/4 ton put it in and said he picked up 3 MPG and as you said made the truck come alive

I am not anti ford I think it is great they didnt take Government money to keep going like the other 2 did
But I think they really missed some big things on these trucks
Maybe that is why they are coming out with a new motor for 2011 and watch the commercials as to how great the MPG will be

Again thanks for the help...

 

What we have is an amazing machine that is engineered very well to hold up to an enormous amount of heat and stress. The issue is the EPA equipment that chokes and robs this truck from its true potential. They had to de-tune the motor for regen and heat issues, and on top of that the DPF/DOC chokes the enigine off from its ability to expel ehhaust gasses effectively. I would challenge any tuned durajoke and crummins to take on a tuned 6.4 and the results would be humbling for both when they can see how nice our tailgates look. The EPA has given a futile effort at cleaning up diesels but failed to realize that fuel consumption has tripled due to poor MPG's. Its a viscious cycle and we will be fighting it for a long time, beacuse no matter how clean we get there are other countries way behind us. I suggest you get a spartan setup for your truck and drive it like it should be.

 

How is this post not respectful, read the first line again Please!!
the rest is true facts

-Shy of 9000lbs, truck weighs 8800lbs

-It lags off the start, very true! about a 3 sec delay.

-Has Great power after that "I FEEL"! ( I tow a 6 ton dump trailer and hauls it like a champ on the hiway) Maybe you use yours for a grociery getter or a race car... to each there own, i choose to work mine.

-These truck arent cheap to fix. True!

-Tunner will make it go like a raped ape! True

FYI, chevys and dodges arent as heavy as these ford diesels nor do they have the payload capacity.

Again all the best with your programmer personally i would have gone with the banks, for the simple reason that they designed it to work with the DPF to produce next to no soot, the DPF doesnt like soot and am sure that hypertech will produce lots of black smoke(soot) which could clog up your dpf prematurely. costing lots of $$$$$

koboss

 

Weighed my 2010 F-250 cc sb 4wd lariat on friday, i bought it from the US and had to weigh it to register it in Canada. with my 120lb wife in the front seat and 50kms to empty on the dash it came in at 7960lbs just for reference.

I haven't experienced any real delay on takeoff other than normal lag from the turbo spooling up but it's so minimal. After that the power is stupid fun.

 

Thanks for that info
I asked a friend today who has the same truck as mine but his is a 2008 about the weight and he said 7400 and his like mine is an extend a cab model so yours being a crew cab 4 door that would make sense
I had thought the weight would be 6500-7000 area
He also said that he was told the for 2010 the trucks lost some weight
7500 pounds makes more sense than 9000 When I read 9000 I was thinking that 4.5 tons and it didnt seem right
Again thanks all for the input

 

my crew cab comes in at 8100 lbs.

 

For what this is worth
I put the programmer on today and did about 100 miles mostly in town
The truck went from 12.8 to 17.2 on the dash for MPG
I know this isnt a long term test and I will update from time to time
But so far this makes it worth it again to own this truck
Now would there be a down side ? Other then warranty issues?