I don't think I could ever spend $2000 on tires unless I was competing. I'm not saying these will perform better offroad because I honestly don't know yet, but (if you can find them) new Michelin military tires are a fraction of the cost of "mud tires" and you get the same size or bigger, the last longer and are stronger. I bought a set of new 53" Michelins for $100 a piece, just as an example. There are downsides to these as I'm sure these kind folks will point out but for the most lifespan and size in a tire, these are my pick. Come in XML, XL, and XZL's. Downside.. they weigh a ton cuz of high ply count and obvously, NOTHING performs like a bogger. Also you're limited to rim sizes. Here's a site that will give you an idea of what I'm talking about. Tire Service

 

thats a good way to put it..i like it

 

i checked out those military tires, definitely realy good prices, not sure if its quite what im looking for though...

Maybe ill do that - cut out the smallers lugs, thats actually a really good idea

 

Maybe even check out Pitbull tires, those look awesome. Don't know prices on those though.

 

i actually did check out pitbulls earlier today, looked pretty decent actually

 

Also, check with vendors on pirate for either brand and you'll get a much better deal than through a tire shop or summit type places.

 

good to know, will do

 

Im running the 38.5x15-lt16 boggers on my rig. Daily drive it too! I got almost 4000 miles of street time and still got over 70% tread. Just REALLY gotta watch the air pressure. I have next to zero flat spotting in the morning, even after a few days of sitting.

there under my 1990 F350 with a 460, they have held up very very well.

The lugs are kinda close together, but I have yet to find a place yet that they dont clean out.

and as far as price, I got mine for $298 a tire. $1298 shipped to my door.

LTB's are a little cheaper.

 

how much psi do you normally keep them at when your not offroad?

 

to determine the PSI for your truck you'll have to do some testing. .

The tire "foot" print on my truck will be different then yours because of wieght, load distribution, and wheel width . . etc. .

Basically, rub chalk all over a set of lugs, drive a few feet and see what part of the chalk wore off. Evenly or just in the center of the tire. Air Pressure will determine the "foot" print.

I run about 20.5 lbs up front, and 16 lbs out back. When the tire is hot the air pressure will increase! So make sure you warm the tires up first before testing with the chalk. You should do this regardless of getting boggers or LTB's.

 

I run 15lbs front and rear in my Boggers and 18 front/16 rear in my SXs.

 

how fast do the TSL bias wear down on road?

 

15k. MAYBE 20k.

 

thats not to bad

 

The 38.5 boggers are kind of a tradeoff... The close lug spacing makes for probably the best on road manners, and wear of any Bogger, coupled with the lowest road noise, and the 15 wides have the deepest tread of the lot. However, they do give up some grab with the closer spacing, and require more wheel speed to keep clean.
Cut them, and it's a whole different story, grip goes WAY up, and the HP requirement to keep them turning goes up too.


You can see just how agressive they become.
Better hope you have a 60 in the front or enough power that they don't stop spinning.
My skinnies would be cut, but with the rules at the races around here, that automatically puts me in open...

You will be VERY surprised how much HP a bogger will use up, yes, even a stock 300 will turn them and they will still be impressive compared to most other mud tires, but, to actually make them work properly requires a big helping of HP sauce.
A friend of mine who is a hardcore racer runs a 750hp BBF stroker, in what is basically a rail with a ranger shell on it, F150 TTB/9" under it, 4.10 gears for wheel speed, with 38.5x11's or 39.5's, depending on the track... It literally comes up on step
and goes across the top of the mud, much like those crazy Icelanders and their paddle tired buggys that drive on water.

Watching a race truck with boggers on it and not enough power is very predictable, OK off the line, decent speed by mid track, but when it hits the deep stuff at the end of the pit and the tires really start to hook, rpm and speed falls off like no tomorrow.