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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:39 AM
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I'd like to thank everyone for there help and the welcome. I know i'll enjoy this site and all the help. my truck I just bought in dec 09, to help restore my younger days with my first truck I bought at 15. Its a f-250 w/ 292, 4 speed , 456 coggs. Very clean very little rust and a workhorse delux. It came from the factory w/over-the-top camper, 1ton runnin gears posi front and bck. I'm second owner the first owner past away 11 years ago (may he rest in peace), and his son said this truck was one of 2 made in 64. I would like to how true it is Thanks again Rod.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:03 AM
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let me be the first to ask for pics of your girl.

unless i'm mistaken i seem to remember ND saying the locking front dif is quite rare. i am in fact jealous. my 63 front is open unless i can find a way of changing that, pbly something aftermarket.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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I'm getting ready to put on some new tires and have my girl teach me how to and i'll send some pics.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 64 hi-boy
I'd like to thank everyone for there help and the welcome. I know i'll enjoy this site and all the help. my truck I just bought in dec 09, to help restore my younger days with my first truck I bought at 15. Its a f-250 w/ 292, 4 speed, 456 coggs.

Very clean very little rust and a workhorse delux. It came from the factory w/over-the-top camper, 1 ton runnin gears posi front and back.

I'm second owner the first owner past away 11 years ago (may he rest in peace), and his son said this truck was one of 2 made in 64. I would like to how true it is Thanks again Rod.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the facts are...

This truck did not come from the factory with an over the top (cab) camper, because Ford did not offer their own camper (actually made by Open Road) until 1974.

The outer skin of the 1974 camper was moulded fiberglass. These didn't sell worth a hoot, so...Ford discontinued it in 1976.

This truck did not come with 1 ton (F350) running gear. There was no such thing as a factory F350 4WD until 1979.

The Dana 70 rear axle used on all 1953/66 F350's has 6 lugs on a 7.25" bolt circle pattern. The Dana 70 was not available with Limited Slip until 1967.

1967 and later Dana 70 rear axles have 8 lugs on a 6.50" bolt circle pattern.

All 1953/96 F250 2WD's and 1959/96 F250 4WD's came with 8 lug wheels on a 6.50" bolt circle pattern.

People's memories tend to fade after a certain length of time. So whatever a former owner or relative says...take with a large grain of salt.

If the AXLE code found on the Warranty Plate is A4B or A4D =

A4: (Spicer) Dana 60 Rear Axle / 4.57-1 / Limited Slip / 5200 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.

B: (Spicer) Dana 44 Front Axle / 4.56-1 / NON Limited Slip / 3,000 lb. Front Axle Capacity.

D: (Spicer) Dana 44 Front Axle / 4.56-1 / NON Limited Slip / 3,500 lb. Front Axle Capacity.

There is no parts catalog listing for a front driving axle with Limited Slip for any F100 or F250 4WD from 1959 thru 1972.

However, Dana did offer a Limited Slip kit for front driving axles. This kit (there were actually four) was available at the Ford parts counter.

If the AXLE code is only two digits, this is typical of Ford, as they usually did not list the front driving AXLE code on Warranty Plates excepting in some cases in 1959/64 & 1973/79.

If the AXLE code is only two digits, look on the front axle's inspection cover for the Ford ID tag, post what the code is.

Ford offered factory installed F100/250 4WD's beginning in 1959, but...

Ford continued to send trucks to Marmon-Herrington (M-H) to be converted to 4WD if the customer so requested it...at least thru 1972.

So...this truck might be a M-H conversion.

Some Ford dealers also sent trucks to M-H to be converted, but since M-H was (is) located in Indianapolis Indiana, only local dealers in this area would have done this.

btw: Posi or Posi-Traction are GM terms. Ford called their versions Limited Slip aka Equa-Lok, or Traction Lok.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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1967.

B: (Spicer) Dana 44 Front Axle / 4.56-1 / NON Limited Slip / 3,000 lb. Front Axle Capacity.

D: (Spicer) Dana 44 Front Axle / 4.56-1 / NON Limited Slip / 3,500 lb. Front Axle Capacity.

There is no parts catalog listing for a front driving axle with Limited Slip for any F100 or F250 4WD from 1959 thru 1972.

However, Dana did offer a Limited Slip kit for front driving axles. This kit (there were actually four) was available at the Ford parts counter.
just out of curiosity how hard do you think it would be to find that kit, either nos, used, or something aftermarket for my 63 f250? not in my budget right now but would be a nice addition in future, if it's even available anywhere. i'm going to guess it's a little pricey if ya can find one.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by sgettin
just out of curiosity how hard do you think it would be to find that kit, either nos, used, or something aftermarket for my 63 f250? not in my budget right now but would be a nice addition in future, if it's even available anywhere. i'm going to guess it's a little pricey if ya can find one.
D1TZ4880B .. Dana 44 Front Driving Axle Locking Differential Kit / Obsolete

The last MSRP was $128.62, dealer net cost was $77.17.

Today, the asking price could be?

Call BOB ALLEN FORD in Overland Park KS (800-676-0675) and see what they want for the one kit they have.

Like a Boy Scout, be prepared (for their price), because...this dealer wants MEGA-bucks for obsolete parts!
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 05:49 PM
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D1TZ4880B .. Dana 44 Front Driving Axle Locking Differential Kit / Obsolete

The last MSRP was $128.62, dealer net cost was $77.17.

Today, the asking price could be?

Call BOB ALLEN FORD in Overland Park KS (800-676-0675) and see what they want for the one kit they have.

Like a Boy Scout, be prepared (for their price), because...this dealer wants MEGA-bucks for obsolete parts!
i'll call em monday just for the heck of it. will post the price, could be interesting. thanks nd.

edit: i forgot to say looks like i hijacked your thread highboy sorry about that. whatever the details on your truck sounds like you have a pretty cool old 4x4 there.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Thanks for the replys, n.d. I dont fill like you hijacked it, I'm glad to hear from you on it. I'll get that # and post it IF THEY SENT THIS TO MD would it still have the f- 260 on the door tag?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 64 hi-boy
Thanks for the replys, n.d. I dont fill like you hijacked it, I'm glad to hear from you on it. I'll get that # and post it IF THEY SENT THIS TO MD would it still have the f- 260 on the door tag?
MODEL code: F260 = F250 4WD / 6800 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

The MODEL code has nothing to do with where the truck was shipped.

There have been a gazillion F260 MODEL codes used for F250 4WD's from 1959 thru today.

Look on the Warranty Plate for the DSO code, post what it is. The DSO code, when decoded, will tell you what Ford District Sales Office ordered the truck.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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I looked and the D S O code is 72.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 64 hi-boy
I looked and the D S O code is 72.
I see you live in Illinois. Did you buy your truck there? If so...

It's a looong way from where it originally came from, and prolly doesn't have too much rust.

72 = San Jose (NorCal) Ford District Sales Office, where the original selling dealer ordered the truck from.

The 5th digit of the VIN is prolly an R = San Jose CA Assembly Plant.
 
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 06:58 AM
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Yea I do live in Il. and it did come a long way with hardly no rust. Reno, Nv.. The 5th # is an R, I was told it was a special order but we se what the I was told's are. So I dont know if it is or not. I just like to know as much as I can about the ol' truck Thanks Rod
 
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Yea I do live in Il. and it did come a long way with hardly no rust. Reno, Nv.. The 5th # is an R, I was told it was a special order but we se what the I was told's are. So I dont know if it is or not. I just like to know as much as I can about the ol' truck Thanks Rod
Vehicles sold back then in northern NV were ordered from San Jose, as were vehicles sold in ID & UT.

If sold in southern NV, AZ, HI, vehicles were ordered from Los Angeles (DSO 71).

Your truck was not a special order...per se...as the DSO is only two digits. *

6 digit DSO: The first two digits were for the District Sales Office, the last four...the Domestic Special Order number.

When vehicles were ordered special, they had equipment not available on that particularr model, or the paint was a non standard color.

When the vehicle came in for service, the dealer contacted FoMoCo, gave them the 6 digit DSO.

Ford looked up the order number, then told the dealer what parts were required for the special equipment, or the color code for the paint.

Ths same system is still used today.

* The original purchaser could special order a vehicle and have a two digit DSO, IF all the things that the customer wanted were RPO's.

RPO: Regular Production Orders. The selling dealer might not have had the color the customer wanted, or a certain engine, transmission, rear axle ratio, 4WD and etc...available.

So...the vehicle would have to be ordered.

I ordered several new trucks, for one example, a 1971 F100 Ranger XLT.

I wanted a 390 engine, tu-tone blue paint, factory A/C, AM/FM radio, rear chrome bumper, 25 gallon auxillary tank, the dealer didn't have one...so...I had to order it.
 
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