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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Sorry. I should have been more specific. He is a gear head just like us and will probably install a custom tune w/ larger turbo and injectors in the near future.
How big? Is it still going to serve a towing purpose or is this just as much as he can get away with on the street and he is going to race it or what?

Reason I ask, is that going bigger injectors and turbo in of itself doesn't mean that you still need to have fire ring and H-11s. I have gone bigger on both and I still do very well with stock and ARPs. Now I mean if he just wants the heavier stuff just because he wants it or he isn't sure just how high he wants to go yet, then that's something different. I personally wouldn't do all these mods without a plan of what the end result is going to be, but that's me, because once you start messing with things like injectors and turbos you're looking at other mods as well. Re-built tranny(do the input shaft as well), possibly a bigger intercooler(depends on other variables that are different from person to person, I still have the stocker although I have the money set aside for an a/m one if needed), bigger fuel system, I would suggest an RR kit, dampner(since your HP is going to be higher up the RPMs(mines at 3900), and various other things as well. Alot of those should be done at the same time, especially since you are already doing the studs, it just makes it easier to get around everything then.

Originally Posted by RescueF250
Im in this small population.
I already knew that you were in that small population based on your other thread. That was actually aimed at the OP and his friend as I don't know where he is at in the game(other then at the stud and gasket stage, which really doesn't mean much) or were he is going.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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He wants to go all out...just incase later on he gets alittle crazy with the engine mods.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 04:44 PM
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Has anyone installed these HyperMax gaskets on thier 6.0L


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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dvldog458
Has anyone installed these HyperMax gaskets on thier 6.0L


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Spartan did a set on mine. Lasted less than 5000 miles. Major carnage. Ended up going with stock gaskets and Elite H-11. I was pulling about 26 PSI when they blew.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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Spartan did a set on mine. Lasted less than 5000 miles. Major carnage. Ended up going with stock gaskets and Elite H-11.
I have heard about more failures and needing to re-do the hypermax gaskets then I do with the stock gaskets. They just require too much install perfection. Now when they are in there and they are really in there, but getting them in there is the thing.


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I was pulling about 26 PSI when they blew
That's pretty bad. I see 40 psi more regular then I should.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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How about getting the cylinder heads machined to hold the o rings in place. That makes it pretty easy for placement right?
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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How about getting the cylinder heads machined to hold the o rings in place. That makes it pretty easy for placement right?
Yes, but you can't machine too much off. There is a fine line. Let me ask you this, your friend is he doing the studs because he has head problems and is in there fixing them now or is he doing this because of his upcoming mod sickness?

If he is doing this due to needing to do a fix, then he may or may not be able to machine the heads that he has right now(my heads are machined, so it is doable).

If he is going it in prep for upcoming mods, then I would check to see how much he is able to machine off and go from there.

It's possible to machine them, it just depends on what's going on with that truck in particular as to rather or not it will be successful.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 09:10 AM
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Yes, but you can't machine too much off. There is a fine line. Let me ask you this, your friend is he doing the studs because he has head problems and is in there fixing them now or is he doing this because of his upcoming mod sickness?
He's looking into it because he is having problems with it puking under heavy load/high speeds. And we know its not the egr because he deleted it last summer.
He likes these Elite diesel heads. He's just not sure which way to go. i.e. send his heads to Elite or buy their pre done heads and put the 2K core charge up front. A few of my friends swear by this company.
Also, we do not know the condition of his current heads. They are still on his truck which is his daily driver.

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Old Feb 5, 2010 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dvldog458
He's looking into it because he is having problems with it puking under heavy load/high speeds. And we know its not the egr because he deleted it last summer.
He likes these Elite diesel heads. He's just not sure which way to go. i.e. send his heads to Elite or buy their pre done heads and put the 2K core charge up front. A few of my friends swear by this company.
Also, we do not know the condition of his current heads. They are still on his truck which is his daily driver.
Well, if he is still driving the truck and it is puking that means more and more the heads are going to be at the point of no return(meaning you'll have to get another set of heads). This may or may not be the case, it just depends on what all is going on, but it is a scenerio that he might encounter given what I do know now.

Elite is a far company, I have heard both sides(good and bad), but nothing that would scare me from them(in fact, the bad could just be pissed off customers for whatever reason), however, I do not have any personal experience with them.

It's a tough call, because he might need new ones as it is, but I'm sure if he sends them off and they say the heads are shot, I'm sure they will be more then willing to send him another set that was completed.

I say all this, because mine were almost past that point of no return on the passenger side, driver side they were fine.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:05 AM
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ARP's are sufficient.... unless you just feel like spending extra money! Once again I will say, Shawn Ellerton is running 1004hp with just ARP's and stock gaskets....
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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ARP's are fine like said above, Fire ring heads are junk in my opinion, cause if they mess up your done wont work.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2010 | 10:12 AM
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Thanks for all the info guys. These replys really helped.
 
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