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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 10:37 AM
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Adjustable pedal problem looking for part number or fix.

I have search and read everything on this forum about the adjustable pedal problem but I am not seeing any fix (do it yourself type).

My brother has a 2003 EB with 60k on it and the pedals will no longer adjust.

Does anyone have the part number for the assembly or know if it can be taken apart and fixed?

thanks for the help.
 

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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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I've seen that topic covered here before but can't recall the fix. It's out there....
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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did you check the fuse?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies! The fuse is good....the pedals move about 1/2' but will not move to the full forward or full back position. They will move 1/4 inch back or forth. Does anyone have a part number for the assembly?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Does anyone know if a pedal assembly off of a 2001 fit a 2003?
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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SECTION 206-00: Brake System — General Information 2000 Expedition/Navigator
Maybe this will help, part numbers I don't have.

Workshop Manual

DESCRIPTION AND OPERATION

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Brake System
Brake System Components

Item Part Number Description
1 — Brake master cylinder and brake booster assy
2 9G604 Adjustable brake pedal switch
3 — Rear disc brake assy
4 2453 Brake pedal
5 2780 Parking brake control
6 — Front disc brake assy
7 2C219 Electronic hydraulic control unit

The vehicle is equipped with a vacuum-assisted power braking system. Refer to Section 206-07 .

The braking system is a front-to-rear split hydraulic system. Refer to Section 206-06 .

The front wheel brakes utilize a dual piston brake caliper and disc brake system. Refer to Section 206-03 .

The rear brakes utilize a single piston brake caliper and disc brake system. Refer to Section 206-04 .

The parking brake system is a mechanical system that activates a shoe-and-drum system within the brake disc (2C026). Refer to Section 206-05 .

A 4-wheel anti-lock brake system (4WABS) is standard equipment. Refer to Section 206-09 .

Adjustable Pedals

Expedition and Navigator are equipped with an adjustable brake pedal. Using the adjustable pedal switch, located on the LH side of the instrument panel below the headlamp switch, the driver can adjust the brake and accelerator pedals for a more comfortable driving position. For removal and installation of adjustable pedals, refer to Section 206-06 .

Driver Seat Module
The adjustable pedals are controlled by the driver seat module (DSM) only when the vehicle is equipped with the programmable/recall memory option (Navigator only).

The DSM system consists of the following components:

DSM
Adjustable pedals
Adjustable pedals switch
Memory set switch
Driver memory seat switch
Memory mirror switch
Front vertical seat motor
Rear vertical seat motor
Driver horizontal seat motor
Left heated memory mirror
Right heated memory mirror
Remote anti-theft personality (RAP) module
NOTE: DSM diagnostics are compatible with the New Generation STAR (NGS) diagnostics.

The DSM incorporates multiple functions into one module and offers diagnostics to easily locate and repair concerns affecting the subsystems that it controls.

The DSM constantly monitors the systems under its control and reports a concern in the form of diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs). A DTC can be retrieved with the Rotunda New Generation STAR (NGS) Tester 007-00500 or equivalent through the communications link.

Adjustable Pedal Operation
The adjustable pedals, with memory feature, (Navigator only) are controlled by the DSM and are operational all the time, ignition switch ON, or OFF. Using the adjustable pedal switch, the driver can adjust the adjustable pedals forward, and rearward. The DSM will power the adjustable pedals until the switch is released, or until the travel limit is reached.

Memory Adjustable Pedal Operation
The memory adjustable pedal feature allows the driver to program a personalized pedal position that can be recalled using the memory switches or remote keyless entry transmitters. There are three memory settings possible. The outside rearview mirror and power driver seat positions are also stored and recalled with the power adjustable pedal positions.

Programming Adjustable Pedal Positions
Programming adjustable pedal positions can be accomplished by doing the following:

An adjustable pedal position can be stored at any time. To store the adjustable pedal position to memory, the driver must move the pedals to the preferred position using the adjustable pedal switch. The driver must then depress the memory SET switch, activating the memory SET switch light emitting diode (LED). Within 5 seconds (before the LED goes out) the driver must select a memory position. Memory no. 1 is selected by depressing the 1 switch. Memory no. 2 is selected by depressing the 2 switch.
If no memory switch input is received within the 5 second time limit, the operation is aborted and the memory SET switch LED is turned OFF. If one of the following inputs is received during the 5 second programming limit, the operation is aborted and the memory SET switch LED is turned OFF:
Adjustable pedal switch
Power driver seat switch
Power outside rearview mirrors switch
Memory SET switch.
Recalling a Stored Adjustable Pedal Position
Once the driver has stored a preferred adjustable pedal position, the driver can recall the setting by depressing the corresponding memory switch, or by using a programmed remote keyless entry transmitter. Recalling a stored adjustable pedal position can be accomplished by doing the following:

The driver can recall a preferred adjustable pedal position by depressing one or both of the memory recall switches. Pressing memory switch 1 will initiate a recall of the adjustable pedal position stored in memory no. 1. Pressing memory switch 2 will initiate a recall of the adjustable pedal position stored in memory no. 2. Pressing both memory no. 1, and memory switch 2, will initiate a recall of the adjustable pedal position stored in memory no. 3.
A remote keyless entry transmitter (RAP module interface) can be used to recall previously set memory positions. The remote keyless entry transmitters are manufactured with an assigned personality number (1, 2, or 3) and are so designated on the back of the remote keyless entry transmitter case. The remote keyless entry transmitter assigned with personality 1 is capable of only recalling memory position 1. Similarly, the remote keyless entry transmitters assigned with personalities 1 and 2, can only recall memory positions 1 and 2, respectively.
Memory recall occurs when the UNLOCK switch is pressed on the remote keyless entry transmitters. A second press of the UNLOCK switch, which unlocks the passenger doors, does not initiate a memory recall.
A memory recall in progress does not prohibit the initiation of another memory recall; the most recently requested memory recall will be executed.
 
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Old Feb 3, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Thanks for the info! I will keep my eye's out for anymore info on how to fix them.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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I'm having the same problem with my brake pedal on my '03 Navigator. It will move approx. 1/2" but no further. I can hear the motor running and the drive shaft is turning but again only a short distance. Did you even get an answer to this problem?
 
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Old Feb 28, 2010 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by glongthermo
I'm having the same problem with my brake pedal on my '03 Navigator. It will move approx. 1/2" but no further. I can hear the motor running and the drive shaft is turning but again only a short distance. Did you even get an answer to this problem?
Nope not yet....still looking for answers.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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I have a 2005 exp eb 4x4 with the same problem you describe. The pedals move about 1/4 in either direction, but thats it. Good fuse, seat adjusts, memory holds seat position etc. Is it just that the motor went bad? Or is there something more mechanical that can be adjusted I wonder.

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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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Have you guys with this problem tried sprying the mechanism with lube. I had the same problem on my power seats and a little spray made them work perfectly.
 
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Old Mar 11, 2010 | 03:07 PM
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Yeah, with the fuse check that was the first thing I did.. No difference.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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Has anyone come up with a solution to the small movement problem? Just bought an '03 Expedition and the pedals only move about a 1/4" either way. Frustrating.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by jnafulk
Has anyone come up with a solution to the small movement problem? Just bought an '03 Expedition and the pedals only move about a 1/4" either way. Frustrating.
This is what the shop replaced when mine was doing the same thing.
Pedal Asy - Brake

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ng-pedals.html
 
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Old Dec 25, 2010 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by jnafulk
Has anyone come up with a solution to the small movement problem? Just bought an '03 Expedition and the pedals only move about a 1/4" either way. Frustrating.
Yes!
I posted in THIS thread what I found about a month ago.
I am pretty sure it is probably the cause on many Ford trucks when the pedals only move a small amount.
 
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