1960 ford unibody short bed

It's funny how people get inaccurate information, or just don't know. for example, guy was selling his 63 on eBay, had the 63 grill, but the 64-66 style bed, and had no idea there was even a difference in grills over the years, or a lady told me she once had a 66 unibody? I let her know the years of the unibody production and she realized she was mistaken and it was a 63. And I'm just as guilty sometimes, but if i'm not 100% sure I go look for my answer before I advertise it, lol

 

It s a 61. remember, production and sales start in august of 1960.

If it is an early production it will say August through December of 1960 based on the vins consecutive unit number.

Garbz

 

"What's wrong with this?"

(Besides wrong year) I'm thinking paint job is what's really wrong....lol

 

If the truck was sold new prior to 1/1/1961, some states back then...registered vehicles by year first sold, not by the actual model year.

This might explain why the seller thinks it's a 1960, because that's the year shown on the title.

This could also be the case for 1965 Mustang's (introduced 4/23/64) / 1969 Econoline's (introduced: 2/1/1968) / 1969 Mark III's (introduced 3/1/1968) / 1983 Ranger's (introduced 4/1/1982).

According to FoMoCo, there's no such thing as a 1964 Mustang, 1968 Econoline or Continental Mark III, 1982 Ranger.

 

true there is no such thing as a 64 mustang, it's a 64.5! maybe not according to Ford, but they were first offered in April of 64, I actually know someone who bought one in May 1964 right after he was married. Mustangs registered in 64 bring a lot more money than a 65 also,

Original sales forecasts projected less than 100,000 units for the first year, but in its first eighteen months, more than one million Mustangs were built. All of these vehicles were VIN-identified as 1965 models, but several changes were made at the traditional opening of the new model year (beginning August 1964), including the addition of back-up lights on some models, the introduction of alternators to replace generators, and an upgrade of the V-8 engine from 260 to 289 cubic-inch displacement. In the case of at least some six-cylinder Mustangs fitted with the 101 hp., 170 cu. in. Falcon engine, the rush into production included some unusual quirks, such as a horn ring bearing the 'Ford Falcon' logo beneath a trim ring emblazoned with 'Ford Mustang.' These characteristics made enough difference to warrant designation of the 121,538 earlier ones as "1964½" model-year Mustangs, a distinction that has endured with purists for the past 46 years and counting


Also, little bit of history, the original prototype was a 2 seater, mid mounted 4 cylinder car.


I know you're right as far as what Ford says ND, and we all appreciate what you do, but to the car collecting world, there is such a thing as a 64½ mustang.

 

A liitle bit of correct Mustang history. I know more about 1964/66 Mustang's than I do about any truck.

Lee Iacocca was the father of the Mustang, he initiated a design competition between divisions to style the car.

The Lincoln-Mercury Division won the styling contest, their name for the car was Cougar.

After the Mustang's styling and design were finalized, and test "mules" were running, Lee Iacocca decided that a "prototype" should be built to display to the public to whet their appetite.

In other words, the so-called "prototype" was built AFTER the Mustang was designed and styled.

The Mustang made its first public appearance at the NY World's Fair on April 17, 1964, and went on sale world-wide on April 23, 1964.

The Mustang's assembled between 4/1964 thru 8/22/1964 came with 170/200 I-6's, 260/289 and 289 HiPo V8 engines, and all had generators.

From 8/23/1964, the 170 & 260 were dropped, the Fastback was introduced, the cars have alternators. And, a different: 289 engine block (6 flywheel mounting holes vs 5), different timing cover, turn signal switch, steering wheel and horn ring than ALL previous generator cars came with. The front fender Mustang nameplate (non GT's) is 1/4" longer.

The hood is also different. The original hood had a lip that folded over at the front. Dealers wanted a hood nose moulding, as none of the generator cars had one. So Ford came out with a new hood that did not have the lip, and the nose moulding.

There are two different 1965 Mustang non GT fuel caps, ditto for GT caps. So many of the early fuel caps were stolen, that the later 1965 Mustang fuel caps came with a cable on them to prevent theft. Since this was a "running change" there is no before/from a certain production date.

Backup lights were an option on all Mustang's thru 12/31/1965.

1/1/1966: The new Fed Safety Standard's went into effect. All Passenger Cars had to have standard equipment: heater/defroster, L/H outside mirror, lap seat belts for all passengers...and backup lights.

But, even after backup lamps became standard equipment on Mustang's, Ford still did not offer a rear lower back panel with the holes punched out for the lights, all had to be drilled out with a hole saw.

When introduced, the 1965 Mustang won the "Tiffany Award" for its styling, but...

Prior to the introduction of the Mustang, there was no such thing as a Tiffany Award for anything, and none since.

This so-called award was cooked up by Iacocca in cahouts with Tiffany, as he felt the car's styling should win some sort of award.

Where were you on 4/23/1964? I know where I was. I was the back (shop) parts counterman at Ralph Williams Ford in Encino, CA. So...know these cars from the get-go, and have every book that was ever written about Mustang history.

At one time, I owned the 1/8th scale model of the Mustang (a fiberglass HT) that was displayed at the NY World's Fair on a turntable. Ford updated the model for 1966, then a Ford executive got it.

In 1980, a guy called Crenshaw Motors in LA, saying he wanted to sell a Mustang "kiddie car" that he bought at a storage auction. The salesman put the call thru to me, the guy said he wanted 20 BUCKS for it.

He brought it over to Crenshaw in a Dodge Van. One look, I couldn't get the money out fast enough! Didn't even argue the price.

I later sold it to a Mustang nut for FIVE GRAND!

 

lol, I don't know whether you know it or not Bill, But I always get a laugh out of you, from the very dry almost harshness of your telling someone they're wrong, whether intentional or not, I truly do enjoy it and get a kick out of it even if it's on my account.

 

I know Bill cracks me up too, he is the man when it comes to Ford Data. Very valuable asset to have around. Very Data focused.lol

 

Iso, you should cite Wikipedia to avoid plagiarism.

 

I didn't say you were wrong, I just corrected the info, which btw, was off the cuff....not from Wiki Wiki.

I wouldn't expect someone who was born in 1989 to know much about early Mustang history, that occured 46 + years ago.

 

And some of us are old enough to know that all Iacocca did was come with a new dress to hang on the Falcon. If Macnamara hadn't championed the Falcon, what chassis would Lee have dropped his 'creation' on?

 

What chassis? There isn't one...since Falcon's and Mustang's are unit-bodies.

How many parts of the 1965/66 Mustang are Falcon specific? Most of the front suspension.

ALL the sheet metal is pure Mustang, not one part is from a Falcon.

 

This is the kind of stuff I absolutely love...Bill is IMO a HUGE asset to FoMoCo regarding history of so much in so many way it makes your head spin...The Mustang info above is an excellent example of what I mean.
As for the books...he has an IMMENSE library that any car nut or history buff would envy...


- cs65

 

Just think about how many years it takes to read them all and with the ability to remember where the info was.I would think to start collecting them and knowing where all the info is on a hobby level would be nearly impossible.

 

Uh huh...I've been in this hobby officially since 1956, when I bought my first old rolling pile of miseries, an all original 40K 1936 Lincoln Zephyr V12 for 200 bucks....I was twelve years old.

I've been buying books even longer, have 1000's on many subjects and a 90% plus memory retention. I can speed read a 300 page book in a coupla hours.

I usually have three books going at the same time: Current reads: The Merchant of Poverty Row / Monument Men / Eyewitness Guide to Great Britain.

NM resident: If you wanna know all about Pueblo Pottery, not only do I have dozens of the books, but the pottery itself, including a Maria.

"Squire Don" has been here, so he knows what a disaster of a managerie this house is, which includes 30,000 books, 100's of "sporting goods," five Basset Hounds, and "She, who must be obeyed!"