4x4 conversion gone wrong. Camber Question.
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4x4 conversion gone wrong. Camber Question.
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The past couple days iv been swapping my truck to a 10.25 rear and a D44 TTB front.
The biggest problem is with the front end and the camber, thanks to the TTB, i had tons of positive camber \---/ Mostly becasue iv got F350 HD front coils and i used the 2wd spring seats, giving me close to 2.5in lift total. I went to the junk yard and pulled the pivot point lowering brackets from a lifted bronco. They drop the pivot about 4 in and it sits /---\. Which i didnt realize until i got them on, I know its too much, and i have old brackets to go back too, but then im back to \---/ Is there any adjustment in the ball joint?
Im also having a problem with the axle shaft. It rubs in the hole on the passenger side. I didnt notice it befor the drop brackets. Any ideas?
And help is greatly appreciated. Id like to have her back up and running before to long.
Thanks
The past couple days iv been swapping my truck to a 10.25 rear and a D44 TTB front.
The biggest problem is with the front end and the camber, thanks to the TTB, i had tons of positive camber \---/ Mostly becasue iv got F350 HD front coils and i used the 2wd spring seats, giving me close to 2.5in lift total. I went to the junk yard and pulled the pivot point lowering brackets from a lifted bronco. They drop the pivot about 4 in and it sits /---\. Which i didnt realize until i got them on, I know its too much, and i have old brackets to go back too, but then im back to \---/ Is there any adjustment in the ball joint?
Im also having a problem with the axle shaft. It rubs in the hole on the passenger side. I didnt notice it befor the drop brackets. Any ideas?
And help is greatly appreciated. Id like to have her back up and running before to long.
Thanks
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After I installed lift coils on the front of my '96 I had the same problem you did before the drop brackets. I ended up having the local alignment shop install adjustable caster/camber bushings and haven't had any trouble with alignment since. Sounds like the drop brackets are dropping the beams too much with the springs you are using causing the axle shaft to rub, but can't be sure without seeing a picture. You might look into getting 2.5" lift springs for a F150 unless you need the heavier spring rate of the 1 ton springs.
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I like the F350 springs, and i think they will work well with the front bumper im building, because it will be heavy.
Do you think i should stick with the drop brackets or go back to the originals?
Do you think i should stick with the drop brackets or go back to the originals?
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I know, i know, i would love to do a sas. And im starting to think i would have much rather done it then deal with these stupid issues. But dana 44's around here run 600-800 and a dana 60 is atleast 1200. Its to much for me right now. Maybe in the future though. I actually have a dana 44 from a 70's chevy in the bac of my truck. Stupid passenger side drop 
Anyways, the TTB will do what i need it to for now.
Could i redrill the drop brackets where i need them, say roughly 2 - 2.5 in higher??? Maybe???
Anyways, the TTB will do what i need it to for now.
Could i redrill the drop brackets where i need them, say roughly 2 - 2.5 in higher??? Maybe???
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Nope, i didnt think that 2.5in lift was enough to need them. And the bronco i got the brackets from has extended aftermarket arms. I was planning to go get them later once everything was up and running.
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yes you can drill the 4 inch drop brackets, but you will have to be very careful when you do it. everything has to be spot on perfect, or you will not be able to get an alignment to work.
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Im thinking if i get a line between the original hole and the drop bracket hole, and drill the hole along that line it will give me a good position. And hopefully fix the camber.
as for the axle shaft hitting, i guess ill have to try it and see.
as for the axle shaft hitting, i guess ill have to try it and see.
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Thats what i was originally gonna do, but i saw the drop brackets and thought "that looks like a good idea." I dont know why i was thinking, and i know better then to have ideas.
Anyways, if i did that, i have to go back to stock. No biggie. But i havent found any info on how to put the new bushing in anywhere. I can do it mechanically, but i dont wanna tear it all apart and not have any idea of what im doing.
Anyways, if i did that, i have to go back to stock. No biggie. But i havent found any info on how to put the new bushing in anywhere. I can do it mechanically, but i dont wanna tear it all apart and not have any idea of what im doing.
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I had the F350 front coils when it was 2wd. And i brought up the front a good amount. Im gonna build a heavy duty bumper for it, and id like to keep them. The reason im not buying a kit is because i dont have money to spend on it. And i know there are guys running 2 in without camber problems. I just gotta figure out how to get mine setup.
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you have to buy a camber adjustment bushing from you local auto parts store you remove the original by taking the old one out of where the upper ball joint goes into the ttb arm at least thats how it is on a 2wd i am not sure about a 4x4
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4x4 works the same. You basically have a couple options. One is to install the camber bushings. Getting the old bushings out is a job but it sounds like you are familiar with how to tear down the axle and replace them. But I would wait until you get the bumper installed because a big heavy bumper will affect alignment. Then hope that the bushing will be enough to correct for your lift. I think you they are good for no more than 2" of suspension lift. Two is to install the drop brackets and get it lined up that way. Like Tom says you have to do it right or you will end up installing new bushings anyway to compensate for the drop amount. The last option is to just go with the standard coil springs and not worry about any of the other stuff. If you're working your truck so hard that you need F-350 coils in front then you need a bigger truck anyway.