Lets see Your Gooseneck trailers!!!!
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Lets see Your Gooseneck trailers!!!!
I just got a 96 F50 psd and will be looking for a 20ft 12 to 14,000 gooseneck flat bed trailer. I want to see what you guys have. Please post pics and specs of them. Any and all trailers welcome.
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First off, why are attachment points so far back?
Second, (directly related to first), they should be crossed. A trick I learned to always prevent chain binding on unforseen turns and hills is to cross them, and wire them together, and to the tounge. Same reason you run the pigtail to the tounge before you to go the plug. The closer everything is to the axis of the hitch, the less things have to expand/slack while moving.
Second, (directly related to first), they should be crossed. A trick I learned to always prevent chain binding on unforseen turns and hills is to cross them, and wire them together, and to the tounge. Same reason you run the pigtail to the tounge before you to go the plug. The closer everything is to the axis of the hitch, the less things have to expand/slack while moving.
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My trailer came equipped with a carabiner on each safety chain for attachment to the bed mounted hitch. I think this is what TexasRebel is referring to.
Also it appears that the emergency brake cable is connected to the chain hook and it should be connected to the bed.
Also it appears that the emergency brake cable is connected to the chain hook and it should be connected to the bed.
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Also it appears that the emergency brake cable is connected to the chain hook and it should be connected to the bed.
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Different locking mechanisms.
a 5th wheel defaults to the lock position. When a pin strikes the jaws, they lock. If the jaws don't lock, you won't move the trailer.
Ball hitches aren't as failsafe. They default to the unlocked position. I believe that if you have one of the older style eyelet ***** safety chains are not required.
a 5th wheel defaults to the lock position. When a pin strikes the jaws, they lock. If the jaws don't lock, you won't move the trailer.
Ball hitches aren't as failsafe. They default to the unlocked position. I believe that if you have one of the older style eyelet ***** safety chains are not required.
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This is a good question, all of the hitches I have seen have the safety chain attachments right next to the hitch. I wonder if the attachments are even connected to the frame.
Good to see that the battery operated brake is installed. According to my local trailer dealer, the DOT is really cracking down on trailers that do not have this installed. Unless you are carrying perishable goods they will ground you until the proper equipment is installed.
Good to see that the battery operated brake is installed. According to my local trailer dealer, the DOT is really cracking down on trailers that do not have this installed. Unless you are carrying perishable goods they will ground you until the proper equipment is installed.
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So what is the handling, weight carrying, etc. differences between the two systems?
Under what circumstances does one perform better than the other?
Sorry for the questions but I am new to towing anything bigger than an atv hauler ...
Under what circumstances does one perform better than the other?
Sorry for the questions but I am new to towing anything bigger than an atv hauler ...
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goosenecks are simpler. If you're using your bed and frequently towing, gooseneck is the way to go. Get a setup such as the B&W turnoverball and you go from gooseneck ready to empty bed in less than a half minute. One person could easily haul 40 bags of feed home, then hitch up a cattle trailer to head to auction...
5th wheels are sturdier, but also much more involved. The hitch renders the bed nearly unuseable since it takes up so much room. They are also quite heavy and not always easily removed by one person.
As far as weight capacity, they'll both excede the trucks capabilities. The turnoverball I mentioned earlier is rated for 30,000# At that point you'll have trouble with the frame holding out.
Semis use 5th wheels for a reason, though. They have the potential to pull a lot more weight. The 5th wheel design reduces moment on the hitch, so the load is almost exclusively a shear load.
5th wheels are sturdier, but also much more involved. The hitch renders the bed nearly unuseable since it takes up so much room. They are also quite heavy and not always easily removed by one person.
As far as weight capacity, they'll both excede the trucks capabilities. The turnoverball I mentioned earlier is rated for 30,000# At that point you'll have trouble with the frame holding out.
Semis use 5th wheels for a reason, though. They have the potential to pull a lot more weight. The 5th wheel design reduces moment on the hitch, so the load is almost exclusively a shear load.
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goosenecks are simpler. If you're using your bed and frequently towing, gooseneck is the way to go. Get a setup such as the B&W turnoverball and you go from gooseneck ready to empty bed in less than a half minute. One person could easily haul 40 bags of feed home, then hitch up a cattle trailer to head to auction...
5th wheels are sturdier, but also much more involved. The hitch renders the bed nearly unuseable since it takes up so much room. They are also quite heavy and not always easily removed by one person.
As far as weight capacity, they'll both excede the trucks capabilities. The turnoverball I mentioned earlier is rated for 30,000# At that point you'll have trouble with the frame holding out.
Semis use 5th wheels for a reason, though. They have the potential to pull a lot more weight. The 5th wheel design reduces moment on the hitch, so the load is almost exclusively a shear load.
5th wheels are sturdier, but also much more involved. The hitch renders the bed nearly unuseable since it takes up so much room. They are also quite heavy and not always easily removed by one person.
As far as weight capacity, they'll both excede the trucks capabilities. The turnoverball I mentioned earlier is rated for 30,000# At that point you'll have trouble with the frame holding out.
Semis use 5th wheels for a reason, though. They have the potential to pull a lot more weight. The 5th wheel design reduces moment on the hitch, so the load is almost exclusively a shear load.
You get more head movment also from the goose Verses's the 5th wheel if you drive on more uneven off roads.
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[quote=TexasRebel;8446093]
5th wheels are sturdier, but also much more involved. The hitch renders the bed nearly unuseable since it takes up so much room. They are also quite heavy and not always easily removed by one person.
NOTE: ONLY WHILE BEING USED AS A TOWING DEVISE! I remove mine anytime in between pulls. Gives me full use (there's a little bump over the axle) of the bed when not towing. Only thing that holds it in the bed are removable pins.
5th wheels are sturdier, but also much more involved. The hitch renders the bed nearly unuseable since it takes up so much room. They are also quite heavy and not always easily removed by one person.
NOTE: ONLY WHILE BEING USED AS A TOWING DEVISE! I remove mine anytime in between pulls. Gives me full use (there's a little bump over the axle) of the bed when not towing. Only thing that holds it in the bed are removable pins.