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Old Jan 27, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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My 79 has the factory stuff still and it works good. It's nothing like a new car, but it blows cool air. I did change the expansion valve and dryer on mine a couple of years ago and recharged it w/ R12. I've never had much luck with the R134 conversions long term and they don't put out the cold air like R12. You can still get R12 on ebay easy enough.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Kalve
same here mine is a 74 F250 Crew Custom an does not have A/C I am going to change out the dash to one that has factory A/C an install everything myself. I am just going to double check on all the parts I need to do this.
the firewall on the factory AC truck is different, I would suggest aftermarket AC if you didn't have AC originally.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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the firewall on the factory AC truck is different, I would suggest aftermarket AC if you didn't have AC originally.
'Zactly. Something like this can be hung under the dash with a minimum of fuss. $150 ain't cheap, but ya might find a period correct unit in a good junk yard west of the Mississippi, most of our yards here on the east coast have nothing older than 1980's. I've pulled a few out of junkyard trucks for $25 or so. Look around at swap meets, too.
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 04:13 PM
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My truck has factory ac, so I believe that eliminates the prospect of dropping an aftermarket system, (plus that sounds expensive) I know of two junkyards within spitting distance of my house that have every dent part you could think of, both of the junkyards owners are dent fanatics. But anyhow rounding up a used system is possible for me, and basically from what I have read so far is I want new lines (i'd have to get those anyway), a new drier, and a different air compressor. Using my original york is not an option because I use it constantly for compressed air, so with that said.
Do I need to figure out how to mount a second york? Or can I buy a smaller sanden compressor and build a bracket?
If I go with the sanden method, do I use r12 or r134a.
thanks I really appreciate ya'lls input.
 
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Old Jan 28, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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My truck has factory ac, so I believe that eliminates the prospect of dropping an aftermarket system, (plus that sounds expensive) I know of two junkyards within spitting distance of my house that have every dent part you could think of, both of the junkyards owners are dent fanatics. But anyhow rounding up a used system is possible for me, and basically from what I have read so far is I want new lines (i'd have to get those anyway), a new drier, and a different air compressor. Using my original york is not an option because I use it constantly for compressed air, so with that said.
Do I need to figure out how to mount a second york? Or can I buy a smaller sanden compressor and build a bracket?
If I go with the sanden method, do I use r12 or r134a.
thanks I really appreciate ya'lls input.
I wouldn't use a York compressor, they are very heavy and take a lot(8hp or so) to turn 'em. Like I said earlier, your best bet would be to find the emissions air pump brackets from a later truck and adapt the Sanden to mount to that. You may need additional idler pulleys and/or an additional pulley at the engine crank. I don't have a diagram of the various belt routings, so I can't help much more than that. There is an adapter available to mount the Sanden on the York mount, but if you are going to fabricate other brackets anyway, you can weld one up yourself for a few $$ instead of $50 for the adapter. Are you going to try to get a factory correct drier from a parts house, or a generic one? If generic, I would get one with O-ring fittings, and have the hoses made with fittings to attach to it. Or- you can get a generic drier with "barb" fittings on it, you just cut the high side line to the evap close to the condensor at a convenient place, and use a/c hose clamps to secure it. Not as leak proof as an o-ring fitting, but you wouldn't have to have 2 seperate high side lines fabbed up.
Edit- go with the R134 in the Sanden. Much more convenient.
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Old Jan 29, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by thekingofcows
My truck has factory ac, so I believe that eliminates the prospect of dropping an aftermarket system, (plus that sounds expensive) I know of two junkyards within spitting distance of my house that have every dent part you could think of, both of the junkyards owners are dent fanatics. But anyhow rounding up a used system is possible for me, and basically from what I have read so far is I want new lines (i'd have to get those anyway), a new drier, and a different air compressor. Using my original york is not an option because I use it constantly for compressed air, so with that said.
Do I need to figure out how to mount a second york? Or can I buy a smaller sanden compressor and build a bracket?
If I go with the sanden method, do I use r12 or r134a.
thanks I really appreciate ya'lls input.
First a little intro, I owned AC Radiator Co for 20 years I specialized in AC and cooling system repairs. I have probably installed AC in about 200 cars and trucks and repaired several thousand more. I retired 4 years ago and now I just play with old fords.

My opinion, you should go with R-134, 12 is getting hard to come by and could disappear at any time, also the idiots running the country could make it illegal to own at any time also. I've heard alot of BS about the 134 not cooling as good as the 12, but it isn't really noticable unless your in Texas or similar climates.

You should buy a new compressor, I'd go for 10 or more cubic inches. the factory drier is probably still available, and any decent AC shop can make up the hoses for you after you've got your system all installed.

When you decide to actually do it, let me know and I'll answer any specific questions and help you with proper procedures for cleaning and installing everything.
 
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Old Jan 30, 2010 | 12:02 AM
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My 77.5 F250 4X4 has dealer add on air. I run R134a in it with no problems. The cab is so small of a space I only run it for short periods at a time or I am to cold. I like the dealer add on air because I dont have the big box hanging off the firewall and it makes working on the 460 in it real easy.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 11:06 AM
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Thanks Eric I'll let you know when I start
 
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I second the 134-A for the very same reasons,The r12 is obsolete and will get impossible to get, and all the freeze 12 and other replacements do not work nearly as well as 134.
I drive in texas as well as arizona and the 134 works great.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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I second the 134-A for the very same reasons,The r12 is obsolete and will get impossible to get, and all the freeze 12 and other replacements do not work nearly as well as 134.
I drive in texas as well as arizona and the 134 works great.
we have a slight advantage with the pickups because the cab is so small, I'm not sure you'd get away with the 134 in a full size car. :-) Up here in New England it's not an issue.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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r-12 on craigslist......
 
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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 07:11 PM
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Robertbenita, That pic is great! Where did you get that radio and what website for the online a/c course?
 
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