I Just recently purchased a 1964 Ford f-250 4x4 and was thinking of rebuilding for a little more power dont know that much about this engine . Does anyone have any suggestions on which way i should go with this stock or build up to 390 power if so are there any kits out there or do i need to buy this piece by piece. Thanks for any help, Rob PS. I also have a 1965 Ford f-250 2wd with a stock 300/6 that runs well with a 4speed will consider trading for parts or whatever to complete the 4x4 thanks again.

 

A 64 F250 4x4 should have a 292 Y block, if it has a FE engine it is a transplant. I run a 390 in a 66 F100 4x4, it has more than enough power now and can be built for more.

 

Hi I just got this truck last weekend so not all is clear my title says its a 65 but.... I also have documents from the original buyer that state its a 64 is there somewhere on the block or truck i might be able to get the correct id on this one I do no and you can tell in my profile pic the red truck is the newer one and the grill is different that my 2wd grey ghost that one is a 65 but fenders and everything else match. Previous owner told me it was a 352 thanks again for any help, Rob

 

A 64 will have a straight front axle, 65 twin I-beams. For 2wd this is absolute.

64 will have a front mount Y block V8, 2 valve cover bolts, and front cross over exhaust pipe, 65 side mount FE 352, intake about 1in under the valve covers and spark plugs like this \\ //


The front axle should be the give away.

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Either way, if you have a 352. One of the things you need is headers. Then if your running the 2bbl carb, you should upgrade to a 4bbl intake and carb, around a 600-650 cfm should do. If you can find an original cast iron 4bbl intake it is pretty good compared to the edelbrock alumnium ones, except it is about 50lbs heaver. That is a good place to start.

 

What he should do is pull the 352 and either replace it with a 390 or upgrade the 352 to a 390 by boring it .050 oversized and installing the 390 (3.78" stroke) crank, rods and pistons. There is no comparison in the power output.

 

Exactly. The common '60 352 4V was rated by the factory at 300hp then the 390 4V came out in '61 and was rated by the factory at 300hp. The 352 reaches its' peak at a lower RPM than the 390. The 390 4V shines through with about 40-50 extra pounds of torque at it's peak. There were a few versions to say the least in each engine.

Enjoy

 

About how much money and horse power are we talking to have the 352 boring done kinda on a budget but like the idea! thanks, Rob

 

Yeah a badly fudge 300 hp at 4000 with a 10.2 to 1 compression and only in 1958 & 1959 then Ford lowered the compression because it was unrealistic for the average street motor. The more reasonable number and that is where his engine falls, 1964-1966, was 250 hp at 4400 with a 9.3 to 1 compression. But the torque figure is what really counts because hp is top speed whereas torque is acceleration, the 352 was 352 ft/lbs @ 2800 where the 390 from that era was 427 ft/lbs @ 2800. Your apples and oranges comparison is not only misleading but wrong. Oh and the real hot rod 352 was 360 hp @ 6000 rpm with 10.6 to 1 compression and a mechanical cam. If you are gonna throw misleading numbers around either totally lie or don't bother.

 

You will have to check with your local machine shop of choice for boring costs. As or a crank, rods and pistons, you can check on line or you local parts store. FYI the 352 rods are longer and hence weaker than the shorter 390 rods.

 

Geez, what a keyboard bully; The information that I posted was obtained while searching for "352 engine specs", specifically camshaft specs that were used.

Your torque specifications for the 352 are incorrect but ignorance is bliss in your case.


You should obtain correct information before attempting to apply your narrowminded and uneducated guesswork.

 

My specs is from a Ford Muscle Parts book so you are saying Ford doesn't know what the torque spec is on their 352 from 1964 to 1966? But then I gave a cite for my info where as you just claim to know. The torque numbers for your 300 hp 352 are irrelevant as those engines were never available in a truck. However to just show you that I do know what the 1958-59 352 had, it was 395 @ 2800, but like I said high compression and very optimistic numbers and also higher than the 360 hp hot rod engine. You see I have an advantage on you, I was alive back then and into cars. You wannabe experts really don't have much to offer if you are relying on the internet for your info as so much of it is WRONG or INCOMPLETE.

 

I've cited the specs for a '60 352 4V compared to the first year of the 390 offering. 1961. In 4V, as well.

You are arguing '58-59 and telling us that other Ford later year 352 ratings are innaccurate.

If you would stop for a moment and get over yourself you may realize that we are all somewhat equal and your self-appointed advantage is a myth.

1960 352/1961 390 4V 300hp with the 390 having 40-50 pounds higher torque rating.

Just what were you expecting to get outta that little extra stroke ?

 

You don't read very well obviously. The early 352 was not available in any truck before 1964, so it is irrelevant what the 352 power ratings were when talking about a truck. You are ignoring the facts that matter while you push BS that has nothing to do with reality. Oh and BTW the only 352 available in 1961 was a 2 barrel rated at 220 hp and 336 ft/lbs of torque, how does that compare to the 390 now? You keep comparing not the same year of engines and you are just explain your foolishness again and again. Any 352 in a truck has to be after 1964 so it is irrelevant what the hp and torque were in 58,59,60,61,62 or 63. all those engines were not available in a truck so suck on that. You accuse me of doing and being what you are, which of course you know isn't true. You sure your real name isn't obama?

I'm done now as arguing with an idiot is always a losing deal He drags you down to his level and beats you with experience, which you obviously have.

 

Yeah a badly fudge 300 hp at 4000 with a 10.2 to 1 compression and only in 1958 & 1959 then Ford lowered the compression because it was unrealistic for the average street motor. The more reasonable number and that is where his engine falls, 1964-1966, was 250 hp at 4400 with a 9.3 to 1 compression. But the torque figure is what really counts because hp is top speed whereas torque is acceleration, the 352 was 352 ft/lbs @ 2800 where the 390 from that era was 427 ft/lbs @ 2800. Your apples and oranges comparison is not only misleading but wrong. Oh and the real hot rod 352 was 360 hp @ 6000 rpm with 10.6 to 1 compression and a mechanical cam. If you are gonna throw misleading numbers around either totally lie or don't bother.

The only 352 that was a decent engine was the 360 hp version, the rest of them are okay as boat anchors or planters. you would be better off searching for a 390 engine in the bone yards or buy a donor car, especially if you are going to rebuild it. At least you will be starting with a decent engine with all the parts and the machine work will cost about the same as the engines are nearly identical. Cylinder boring can get expensive as a lot of shops will only take small cuts per pass and they will charge extra to make extra cuts to bring it to .050 over.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->