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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Siast Auto Body Course

Anyone ever taken one? I was on the siast website the other night planning out my classes for after the summer break, and came across a siast auto body metal working class (or something like that) and think I may take it this up coming fall.

From the little description of the course, its basically how to do your own patch panels, and metal shaping/shrinking, and a few other things I cant think of at the moment.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 10:43 PM
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I don't know about Siast Auto Body Course.. but I did take one year of auto body at Assiniboine Community College (ACC) in Brandon, MB. I then went into the field for a year and found that the wage was too low for a rookie, and moved onto something else. But taking the course was worth while because it gave me the ability to fix and custom modify my toys, which i still do to this day. I also became quite good at metal work including metal forming.
Personally the camaraderie and the weekend socials were the most memorable.
I do not know if this will be of any interest or help to you but it was my personal experience with the course.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 02:48 PM
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It sounds like a course I took many years ago,a 20-30 hr short hobbyist`s course on Saturdays. When it comes to body work I`m a slow learner and as I didn`t have any means of practicing at home at the time I didn`t get that much out of it. I think it`s a good course for someone with any aptitude for body work, which it seems I don`t have!
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:25 PM
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429 (whats your first name anyways?) I believe the course you took would be very similar.

Yeah i believe that would pretty much be the same course Morris.

Ive been thinking that if a guy took it, and was decent at it, you could save thousands of dollars by doing your own body work, over the years, as a hobbyist!

I wouldnt choose that field as a career or anything, was just thinking of taking it for the hobbyist end of things.

In both your guys's courses, did they teach any other bodywork, like filler, paint, etc.?
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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The bodywork included filler, shrinking and reshaping metal. Paint was in a different class I took after wards and I think I enjoyed that the most.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 04:48 PM
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429 (whats your first name anyways?) I believe the course you took would be very similar.

Yeah i believe that would pretty much be the same course Morris.

Ive been thinking that if a guy took it, and was decent at it, you could save thousands of dollars by doing your own body work, over the years, as a hobbyist!

I wouldnt choose that field as a career or anything, was just thinking of taking it for the hobbyist end of things.

In both your guys's courses, did they teach any other bodywork, like filler, paint, etc.?
My name is Tony.... The course I took at ACC was 5 days a week, 8 hours a day ( not counting drinking time lol) for one full school year. At the end, I graduated and got my first year ticket and diploma. The course covered everything you would need in becoming a auto body repair man including lead filling ( which was cool and easy). I took this course to mainly to work on repairing my own toys and its saved me lots of money over the years. So if you have time I think its worth it. we were also able to work with lacquer paint ( which I still prefer to use to this day) and did some of my best paint jobs with lacquer. p.s. frame work was great too.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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The autobody course I took in 1980 was a full blown course. and we did upholstrey, metal fabrication, frame repair, heat shrinkage, pick and file, painting, It was to go out in the feild for a career. I did it for 3 years before and after. The pay was not there back in those days like todays pay. Then I got on in the hospital. I still did restoration work on my own. I miss doing it and look forward to the day when I can get back at it.
The course you are looking at is a hobbist course. It will give you some skill and confidence to do your own work. Not including some extra knowledge.
The autobody courses have changed a lot since I went. Today there is more plastic and electronics to deal with and tighter spaces to work in, more unibody work on them today.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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The course i took was in the mid 80's, after high school, it was a full course and we did some plastics at that time in acc.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2010 | 07:52 PM
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Todays courses will deal more with cutting and gluing on new panels. Not like the old days of welding with Oxy-cetalyne. I don't even think they do much teaching of the pick and file of cars these days. Everything is cut and glue and bondo.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:24 AM
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This is taken from the siast site.

Auto Body Metal Work (ATBD 1800)
Basic theory and repair practice are discussed. Topics cover shaping,
shrinking, filling and finishing skills. Exercises are done on practice panels.
Oxy-acetylene or MIG welding experience is an asset, but not required.
There will be a brief introduction to both types of welding.
Saskatoon Oct 17-Nov 28, Sa, 9 am-4 pm CRN 02-629
Tuition fee: $446 (GST included), 42 hours/7 weeks

Im not really sure how much finishing skills they would get into, or how complete the whole course would be, but I do have a genuine interest in learning how to do bodywork properly, and I feel like the 450 bucks would be cheap, IF I ended up being able to do a few things of my own!

If I had the cash, I would just hire Glen to come over and teach me some skills haha.
 
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At $450 it does sound very tempting. Maybe it`s time to take a refresher as I don`t think Glen has time to show us the tricks of the trade.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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By the description Morris, does it sound similar to what you took before??

Maybe a few of us that are interested should go take it when its available! Would be kinda neat to go there with a bunch of buddies, over just some random people.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 01:25 PM
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That is the same one I took about 20 years ago. I doubt the same teacher is there so I should be ok......
It would be neat to take it with buddies though you`ll soon find that some may even be will be working on similar projects to your`s. That`s what I found and made some good friends there as well as in the painting class. It was cool as some of us took painting after the bodywork class.
Go for it though I`m not sure I`ll take it again, I`m sure you`ll really like it!
 
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The instructor maybe Brian Southgate. He is a member of the Draggins car club and has a green done up old Kaiser Henry J car.
That is what we took at the beginning of a full time course and then they expand from there. They will get you to pound out a flat peice of metal to a dome. Then later cut a square in it and weld it back together and hammer the weld away. A type of forging the metal. Then the same panel they will have you put a dent in and have you pick and file the dent out. . Then later will teach you how to bondo the panel and use the same panel for learning to prepare for painting. How to properly primer it, seal, and then have you paint 4 triangle colors on the panel. They will be black, red, yellow and white.
Don't knock it. That is a good way to learn metal work and painting. That panel teaches you shaping, welding, heat welds, shaping the welds, proper prep work for final touches. So one panel will get you to do several things. When I took it they also included lead work, which is not done any more.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 12:05 AM
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Like most guys in my class, and I`m sure in the ones before our`s, I called that the torture panel. First you beat and torture the heck out of it then you make it look quite presentable and neat piece after the paint goes on.
 
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