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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 03:08 AM
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Aux battery cables

I want to run auxillary batteries for lights and sound when I am camping ... What size wire should I run? They will be located slung under the bed as that is the only space big enough for 4D batteries which I might get for free ... As I might relocate the fuel tank , a pair of these should do me ... Gotta plan for all contingencies ...
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Just go buy a isolator, and mount it under the hood, it splices into the alternator wiring. Then run two 10 gauge wires side by side from the other connection on the isolator, down along the frame and hook them to the batteries. These are your charge wires.

For your load connections on the batteries, I would take the equipment you will be running and add up the loads. For the lights, add up the watts of all the lamps you will be running at the same time, and divide that number by 12. This will give you the approx amps they will be pulling.

Also do the same for the sound equipment, and any other loads you may have. If you have any loads that will be over 30 amps, I would consider splitting those loads up.

Once you have all this figuring done, I would buy a aux or add-on fuse box. You will have a idea how many circuits you need, and you can buy one or two fuse boxes, or even a single inline fuse will work if your loads are not very large.

Just to keep everything simple, you can keep using the 10 gauge wire. It's good for 30 amps. So if your total aux fuse box load is going to be 60 amps, you can run two parallel 10 gauge wires, which would be good for 60, 3 for 90amps, etc. If you prefer not to run parallel conductors, you can buy larger wire.

So you feed the aux fuse box with the proper size wire from both batteries(you can jump the + of one battery to the other bat + and then run this wire to the fuse box ) You then size the fuses in the fuse box just above the load that circuit will be pulling, and come out of each individual fuse with the proper size wire for that fuse. So if you have a circuit with approx 25 amp load, I would put a 30 amp fuse on the circuit, and 10 gauge wire.
20amp =12 gauge wire
15 amp = 14 gauge wire
10 amp = 16 gauge wire

They also make circuit breakers you can buy instead of fuses. It doesn't matter, just so you get the idea that coming off the batteries, you need some sort of protection for your circuits.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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West Marine has a chart for amp load vs. wire size vs. length.

Myself, I would probably run a min. of 6 gauge for the charging wires, front to back. Make sure you put the batteries in a box to protect them from road debris, a drain hole, that the top if is vented, and mount the batteries on top of wood when you clamp them down. The wood provides a barrier to shock and insulation.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Just go buy a isolator, and mount it under the hood, it splices into the alternator wiring. Then run two 10 gauge wires side by side from the other connection on the isolator, down along the frame and hook them to the batteries. These are your charge wires.

For your load connections on the batteries, I would take the equipment you will be running and add up the loads. For the lights, add up the watts of all the lamps you will be running at the same time, and divide that number by 12. This will give you the approx amps they will be pulling.

Also do the same for the sound equipment, and any other loads you may have. If you have any loads that will be over 30 amps, I would consider splitting those loads up.

Once you have all this figuring done, I would buy a aux or add-on fuse box. You will have a idea how many circuits you need, and you can buy one or two fuse boxes, or even a single inline fuse will work if your loads are not very large.

Just to keep everything simple, you can keep using the 10 gauge wire. It's good for 30 amps. So if your total aux fuse box load is going to be 60 amps, you can run two parallel 10 gauge wires, which would be good for 60, 3 for 90amps, etc. If you prefer not to run parallel conductors, you can buy larger wire.

So you feed the aux fuse box with the proper size wire from both batteries(you can jump the + of one battery to the other bat + and then run this wire to the fuse box ) You then size the fuses in the fuse box just above the load that circuit will be pulling, and come out of each individual fuse with the proper size wire for that fuse. So if you have a circuit with approx 25 amp load, I would put a 30 amp fuse on the circuit, and 10 gauge wire.
20amp =12 gauge wire
15 amp = 14 gauge wire
10 amp = 16 gauge wire

They also make circuit breakers you can buy instead of fuses. It doesn't matter, just so you get the idea that coming off the batteries, you need some sort of protection for your circuits.
May want to consider fusing the charge line/s to be on the safe side.

Steve
 
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Originally Posted by RV_Tech
May want to consider fusing the charge line/s to be on the safe side.

Steve
Yes, that would be a good idea. You might want to use a circuit breaker for this, in case the batteries for the camper get really dead, and a lot of current tries to pass through the charge wires. That way the circuit breaker can kick and then self reset till the camper batteries recover a little bit.

Originally Posted by rebocardo
West Marine has a chart for amp load vs. wire size vs. length.

Myself, I would probably run a min. of 6 gauge for the charging wires, front to back. Make sure you put the batteries in a box to protect them from road debris, a drain hole, that the top if is vented, and mount the batteries on top of wood when you clamp them down. The wood provides a barrier to shock and insulation.
Do you have a good reason for running such large wiring between the isolator and the camper batteries? This wiring is only to slowly charge the batteries as the truck is driven down the road. Slow charging is best for the life of the batteries.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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Thanks for the good words ... Didn't think of an aux fuse block ... Was just gonna have a junction strip with inline fuses ... I wonder if since I have no air any more I could mount an alternator in the place of the compressor and run the aux batts off that? ... That would totally isolate the aux system ... Just a thought ...
 
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Old Jan 17, 2010 | 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by magusjinx
Thanks for the good words ... Didn't think of an aux fuse block ... Was just gonna have a junction strip with inline fuses ... I wonder if since I have no air any more I could mount an alternator in the place of the compressor and run the aux batts off that? ... That would totally isolate the aux system ... Just a thought ...
I suspect anything is possible with enough time and effort, but it sounds like a lotta work and unless you have a very unique need, I doubt you need it.

Steve
 
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