Diesel is gone
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Mountain Pass
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From: Gt. Falls, MT
Diesel is gone
Today is a sad day, I had to sell my 2000 f350 7.3L diesel, but at least I'll be able to get a newer pickup, I just couldn't justify owning a Diesel other than the fact I love the power, however I have owned a v-10 before and will probably go back to one or a 5.4L, I don't tow a ton but I am still keeping a 3/4 ton, any one have an opinion? I would like to hear.
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From: Kirkland, WA
Wow, sorry to hear that. I have a 2000 7.3 F350 as well and couldn't justify getting a newer gas pickup. I have gas trucks as well. Lower gas mileage and less pulling power with the gassers and shorter engine life.
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Before I bought my V-10 F-350 CC, I drove one with a 5.4. It was a total SLUG. That is a very heavy pickup for the 5.4. I thought the 3 valve motor would be better, but I know two people that have them, both in regular cab trucks, and they both say the same thing, SLUG. They also only get about 2-3 mpg better when empty, but 2-3 mpg worse when hauling a trailer. Just my two cents.
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i have a question i have spent too much money swapping my truck over from 2wd to four wheel drive i have installed a 6 inch lift the chicken wing dana front axle 3inch blocks in the back with add a leafs the truck is a 1994 ford f150 4x2 sport is with m5r2 trans will a 4x4 tail housing and transfer case i bought used out of a 1993 f150 4x4 fit this truck or is the shafts inside a 2wd and 4wd m5r2 trans different please help me with this or direct me to somewhere on this site that can any help will be greatly appreciated
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I don't want to turn this into an arguement, but I disagree. My v10 crew cab gets better mileage than the '09 regular cab diesel we have at work. I get about 11.9 average and 14+ freeway only while our new 6.4 diesel gets 10.5-11 mpg tops. As for the shorter engine life, we'll see about that in the coming years, but from what I can see, the 6.0 and 6.4 diesels aren't setting the bar all that high. I will say that I have never driven a Ford diesel of any kind so I can't say about pulling power, but both of the Dodge diesels my Dad has owned do have more grunt than my V10, that's for sure, but mine does just fine for my application. It pulls my toy hauler and utility trailer just fine. Different trucks for different needs, I guess.
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I have a friend that drives an F250 4X4 crew cab with the 5.4 and it drives him nuts. His foot is either stuck at WOT or he is stopped. He hates it. Just every time he goes somewhere he floors it and he smiles and says "what a dog".
It will tow things and get around but I have a feeling you would be doing the same. I would get a v10. I love my 6.4 but nothing wrong with a V10 either.
It will tow things and get around but I have a feeling you would be doing the same. I would get a v10. I love my 6.4 but nothing wrong with a V10 either.
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I don't want to turn this into an arguement, but I disagree. My v10 crew cab gets better mileage than the '09 regular cab diesel we have at work. I get about 11.9 average and 14+ freeway only while our new 6.4 diesel gets 10.5-11 mpg tops. As for the shorter engine life, we'll see about that in the coming years, but from what I can see, the 6.0 and 6.4 diesels aren't setting the bar all that high. I will say that I have never driven a Ford diesel of any kind so I can't say about pulling power, but both of the Dodge diesels my Dad has owned do have more grunt than my V10, that's for sure, but mine does just fine for my application. It pulls my toy hauler and utility trailer just fine. Different trucks for different needs, I guess.
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I slithered away from my fourth Cummins powered Ram in '05 for a Hemi powered 2500HD. Put 120k on it with very little trouble. It pulled our 10k lb 5th wheel with ease but most folks think an engine running in it's normal operating rpm range is struggling or screaming. Now we're towing our 8500 lb 5th wheel with our new back to Ford F250 with 5.4L TS and 3.73 ratio. The only thing I find sluggish about it is the drive by wire throttle. It's programmed for mileage and emissions. Every little bit helps. I'm used to it now and sport around like normal. Towing our 5th wheel means 2000rpm on the flats, 2800rpm in rolling hills and 4200rpm in 3rd with power to spare on the steeper ones at 65mph. Not a problem for me and definitely not a problem for the engine but due to perception, it's a serious problem for most. I'm able to squeeze 14mpg very light city and 8.5~~mpg towing 65~mph. Most will likely see 12~mpg city. The 5.4L is a proven reliable small block gas V8 and should last a long time. I have no regrets.
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I ehar all this crap about the 5.4 being a slug and its nothing but B.S. My 5.4 does pretty decent, power wise and is a heck of alot faster than my friends stock 7.3L diesel. that truck doesn't set the world on fire with or without a load. The big diff is, that his changes less when loaded. people act like the 5.4 is some sort of 4 cyl, when the reality is that the 5.4 has more horsepower than the last gen 460, and makes the 5.8 Windsor look like a real turd.
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I remember driving a 2 ton flatbed with a straight 6 gas motor that did just fine. It has been a couple of years, but I'd be willing to wager the 5.4 has more horsepower than that old truck did. Seems strange how our opinion of what is acceptable seems to change over the years.
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I ehar all this crap about the 5.4 being a slug and its nothing but B.S. My 5.4 does pretty decent, power wise and is a heck of alot faster than my friends stock 7.3L diesel. that truck doesn't set the world on fire with or without a load. The big diff is, that his changes less when loaded. people act like the 5.4 is some sort of 4 cyl, when the reality is that the 5.4 has more horsepower than the last gen 460, and makes the 5.8 Windsor look like a real turd.
I haven't heard anything but positive feedback from others on the 5.4 gas motor. My friend bought a new 5.4 F-150 and absolutely loves it. However, I think your friend's 7.3L must need something fixed or updated (PCM flash update/basic tuner/programmer maybe?). Mine pulls a heavy load like its not even behind you and mine is stock with a manual 6 speed, 3.73 rear and only an Edge Evo programmer run in level 1 tow mode. Compared to the 7.3L 625 LBS of torque on tap, the small block gas motor trucks I have owned never pulled with half the performance of a 7.3 PSD engine. There is definately something a miss with your buddys motor for sure.