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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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What do u guys think

ok i own a 06 ford f-350 it has now 197000 km and has given me so many troubles. Starting at 100000km with the head gaskets going along with all the coolers. Then an egr valve went 1000km later. Next at 105000km the turbo went out of her then everything was good for about 5 months,. BAM an injector went out, it got stolen in sept and they blew out the ficm module when they stole it. Next the injection control regulator, now the head gaskets are gone again and they are putting new heads on it. im just wondering do u guys think i should get rid of it, and get an new 6.4L. has anyone else hav this many problems with there 6.0L
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:31 AM
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Sounds to me like you've already answered your own question. I've had minimal issues with my 04 PSD, but the issues i did have early on were annoying and I'd by lying if I told you I never tossed the idea around of getting a different diesel. There are folks that have had a laundry list of major issues with their truck while no indication of heavy mods, driving, poor maintenance, or anything else that would contribute to the truck failing so much other than just part failure/bad design.

If I were you, I would evaluate driving habits, any modifications you've done, cost of a new'ish truck, how well you service the vehicle, etc, and see if you think a 6.4 is the answer to your problems. There's enough info on this site to ease or upset your mind about moving to the 6.4. If the troubles with your truck are purely as a result of the motor and the ensuing maintenance, then I'd say yes. My perception is that the 6.4 isn't as problematic.

Good luck with your decision.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Have to agree with Keeseter....you may want to visit the 6.4 forums and see what's up...the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Any MY of any Manufacturer has issues...some just more than others unfortunately.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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ya the thing is it is a work truck and when it quits working i gotta RUN a company truck not my own and loss money by not running it. and yes it has benn properly maintained every 5000 to 7500 kms it gets oil changes and every 15000km it gets fuel filters coolant has been flushed every 60000km transmission every 50000 km to so i dont know what other type of maintenance its needed top keep the engine running proper
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselsmoker
ya the thing is it is a work truck and when it quits working i gotta RUN a company truck not my own and loss money by not running it. and yes it has benn properly maintained every 5000 to 7500 kms it gets oil changes and every 15000km it gets fuel filters coolant has been flushed every 60000km transmission every 50000 km to so i dont know what other type of maintenance its needed top keep the engine running proper

Driving habits play a part in the 6.0 upkeep. You have systems that aren't on the earlier trucks and you have to adjust accordingly to those systems, otherwise, no matter what you do as far as oil, fuel and tranny changes, you can still have problems. No it isn't stated in the manual that you have to adjust your driving style to these newer trucks, but the crap that has to be stated in manuals is starting to get just down right stupid(this last bit isn't directed at you specifically, I'm just tired of the excuse, it wasn't in the manual from people when I do say that).

More often then not, the design flaws of this engine were compounded by the fact of poor owner knowledge and poor service techs.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dieselsmoker
ya the thing is it is a work truck and when it quits working i gotta RUN a company truck not my own and loss money by not running it. and yes it has benn properly maintained every 5000 to 7500 kms it gets oil changes and every 15000km it gets fuel filters coolant has been flushed every 60000km transmission every 50000 km to so i dont know what other type of maintenance its needed top keep the engine running proper
Work truck with no government emissions testing? I would buy an EGR delete kit, get the ARP studs installed, get a coolant filter, and put the turbo on a maintenance schedule. That should make your truck relatively bullet-proof.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Keeseter CO
My perception is that the 6.4 isn't as problematic.
I have no opinion on the topic, but there are a few techs that would disagree w/ this.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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[quote=bismic;8358590]
Originally Posted by Keeseter CO
My perception is that the 6.4 isn't as problematic.
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I have no opinion on the topic, but there are a few techs that would disagree w/ this.
Pretty sure that's why i labeled it as a perception, rather than fact. Kind of like an opinion.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:01 PM
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I understand. Just sharing what I have read .........
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Just step over into the 6.4 forum... As someone here has said numerous times: the grass isn't always greener. I remember the worries I had over spark plugs pulling out of their seats in the V10...
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:07 PM
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Agreed. I have a 2004 6.0L that has been relatively problem free. By some standards/expectations, that's not normal.

Either way, for the intentions of this thread, all things remaining the same, I think it's not out of the question that the OP could have a better experience with a different motor. It all depends on what they did/didn't do with the 6.0 and what they would do/not do with the 6.4.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:14 PM
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...Yeah, and i guess I'd be singing a different tune if my truck does the same. Reality is, though, it is cheaper to address some of the known issues versus buying another truck altogether. The initial investment has been made, and refinement makes more financial sense than replacement.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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I tend to agree with Bismic. There are a couple techs that say they would never own a 6.4 over a 6.0. Since I am a backyard mechanic I would have to bow to the certified diesel mechanics that see both engines on a daily basis.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bismic
I have no opinion on the topic, but there are a few techs that would disagree w/ this.
I paid as much for my 6.0 as I could have for a 6.4.
Im a tech... you wanna know the bad on the 6.4 just let me know. today we had 3 more come in one needs a complete engine, one needs a short block and a high pressure turbo, the other short block, egr cooler, radiator, 8 injectors, high pressure fuel pump as well as high pressure lines and rails (this one may reach cost cap and go complete as well).
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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* If it's still under warrenty there's no expense on your part. Keep Ford on top of the reparis. Maybe they'll get it right.

* Skip the 6.4

* Keep a close eye on the 6.7
 
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