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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 03:32 PM
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Upgrade rear end?

Odd thread title now that I read it....

I don't know much about rear differentials and what it takes to change them.
My truck has 373's and no limited slip. I really hate in the winter being a one wheel wonder. Is it possible or economically viable to add a locker or limited slip as after market?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Go with a EATON, i had one in my 6.0L F250 it was awesome and tough it had big fibre clutches in it and i cooldnt wear it out, the other nice thing about it was it was quite no chattering. thats what i would recomend.

I just had Ford put new clutches in my factory limited slip and it still isnt great. the eaton was always posi. im thinkin that might be my next upgrade.. i may just be giving randys ring and pinnion another call.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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hit up Sawtooth. He has a eaton e locker in the front and a truetrac in the rear.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by senix
hit up Sawtooth. He has a eaton e locker in the front and a truetrac in the rear.
Lol Senix did you ever see a post you didnt feel the need to reply to???
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Lol Senix did you ever see a post you didnt feel the need to reply to???
Sure, well maybe not
 
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Old Jan 11, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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Why would you need a locker in the front? Isn't the front basically "locked" all the time and that is why it turns so poorly in 4wd?

What is involved with changing out the rear-end? Is that something a fairly mechanically inclined person can do even if they haven't worked with rear differentials before?
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:14 AM
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front diff is an open one. Never changed a diff so not real sure what all is involved.
 
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its not real hard but there are certain tricks, tools and it nice to have at eye level on a rack it cost me $150. plus to carrier bearings..
money well spent.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by astamp78
Why would you need a locker in the front? Isn't the front basically "locked" all the time and that is why it turns so poorly in 4wd?
Nope. The reasons it can't turn well in 4wd is because when you put it into 4wd you are forcing the front and rear axles to spin at the exact same speed. The problem is that whenever your front wheels are turned either direction the front axle has to spin faster than the rear.

Therefore you have simple geometry telling the truck the front wheels have to go faster while the truck's driveline makes this impossible. The result is driveline binding and wheel hop. Doesn't matter whether or not the front diff is open or locked, this effect will always be there.

And, as stated, all Ford 4x4s have an open front differential.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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Front axles are open for good reasons: If you've ever driven ACROSS a slippery slope with a front limited slip or locking front axle, you would know what I mean: The downhill wheel has most of the weight; most of the traction and gets most of the drive. The locking front differentials tend to pull you down the hill. The effect is much more manageable with the "posi" rear axles. leave the front as an open unless you have a lot of experience and really think you need it.I don't and I don't..JMHO regards...joe
 
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Well that makes perfect sense, I didn't think about the front wheel speed versus the rear wheels as the reason for the binding / wheel hop. Man if I am not careful, I am going to learn something from all you guys!
 
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