302 engine number
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'less than stellar' - that describes many many vehicular anomalies produced this side of the pond in the 70's and 80's ... Austin Allegro, Morris Marina, Talbot - well all Talbots 
, every French car etc
I could try to get at various parts for number ID's but I'm leaving well alone, especially as it has been shoe-horned in there and even moving the starter slightly to read the numbers was a task as the headers wrap around it! The sump plug wont even come out as it is directly above the tubular cross member let alone trying to drop the sump to check the crank.
Alex
, every French car etcI could try to get at various parts for number ID's but I'm leaving well alone, especially as it has been shoe-horned in there and even moving the starter slightly to read the numbers was a task as the headers wrap around it! The sump plug wont even come out as it is directly above the tubular cross member let alone trying to drop the sump to check the crank.
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Hey Alex~
I didn't realize you lived across the pond. While working I dealt with a number of guys in GB on a regular basis, great bunch of guys. It did afford me a couple of visits and I enjoyed the limited touring I did very much. Good luck with your truck.
Cheers,
B
I didn't realize you lived across the pond. While working I dealt with a number of guys in GB on a regular basis, great bunch of guys. It did afford me a couple of visits and I enjoyed the limited touring I did very much. Good luck with your truck.
Cheers,
B
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V - would be Lincoln
The 3rd character in the part number prefix was the lead vehicle line / user driving the change and funding the engine program.
In the States you basically had one Engine / Powertrain activity that supprted the various car and light truck lines.
We all (all?
) forget about the fuel crunch that hit the mid-late 70's and some of the (less than) stellar products that hit the showroom floor.
Like the Lincoln Versailles, better known as the Glorified Granada, that was 302 powered.
And this is exactly what this 302 engine is from.
That's not to say the engine in question here didn't come out of a Mustang, it did not...originally. you need some one like Bill / NumberDummy to weigh in as they may have shared a common head casting.
The 3rd character in the part number prefix was the lead vehicle line / user driving the change and funding the engine program.
In the States you basically had one Engine / Powertrain activity that supprted the various car and light truck lines.
We all (all?
) forget about the fuel crunch that hit the mid-late 70's and some of the (less than) stellar products that hit the showroom floor. Like the Lincoln Versailles, better known as the Glorified Granada, that was 302 powered.
And this is exactly what this 302 engine is from.
That's not to say the engine in question here didn't come out of a Mustang, it did not...originally. you need some one like Bill / NumberDummy to weigh in as they may have shared a common head casting.
D8VE-6015-A3A is the bare block casting number used for the specific to 302 engines installed in the 1978/80 Lincoln Versailles.
The 302 engines installed in 1977 Lincoln Versailles are the same as other passenger cars used in the 1970's.
However, in 1978/80...the Versailles 302 used specific: bare blocks, short blocks, cylinder heads, crankshafts: 1978: D84Y-6303-A / 1979/80: D94Y-6303-A.
Now y'all know why this 302 engine has a D8VE Lincoln bare block casting number.
btw: Lincoln Versailles have 9" rear axles with disc brakes, as do some 1977/80 Granada's & Mercury Monarch's (another example of a badge engineered Granada besides the Versailles).
btw, part II: In case someone doesn't parlez-vous francias, Versailles is pronounced ver-sigh, not ver-salles.
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It was supposed to mimic the "Continental" spare tire mounted behind the deck lid on 1940/48 Lincoln Continentals.
Is it FUGLY? That all depends on ones perspective. Are Citroen ID's, DS's and the DS Pallas FUGLY...or not? How about the Citroen 2CV, or the Mahari?
btw: I was in Paris during Christmas week 1999, when the hurricane occured. It was unbelievable to look out the hotel window and see roofs flying by.
10,000 trees at Versailles were destroyed. I.M. Pei's pyramid's at the Louvre that were not supposed to...leaked like sieves.
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Fugly cars?? just too many to list. - I had a 1951 phase 1A Standard Vanguard once - revolting thing, but I travelled 200 miles to see it and didnt fancy the train journey back so I bought it to drive home in and sold it on. I have done that three times.
The main hurricane for us in south-east England was in '87 and seeing destruction real time was terrifying.
I'm lucky it is such a rare event for me.
When you buy a house here in France you get a report of the damage caused locally by the '99 storms so you know if it were to happen again in EXACTLY the same way the likely problems you could incounter. Strange way of thinking but that's all they have to go by... so far.
The main hurricane for us in south-east England was in '87 and seeing destruction real time was terrifying.
I'm lucky it is such a rare event for me.
When you buy a house here in France you get a report of the damage caused locally by the '99 storms so you know if it were to happen again in EXACTLY the same way the likely problems you could incounter. Strange way of thinking but that's all they have to go by... so far.
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Casting numbers cannot be cross referenced to actual Ford part numbers.
D8VE-6015-A3A is the bare block casting number used for the specific to 302 engines installed in the 1978/80 Lincoln Versailles.
The 302 engines installed in 1977 Lincoln Versailles are the same as other passenger cars used in the 1970's.
However, in 1978/80...the Versailles 302 used specific: bare blocks, short blocks, cylinder heads, crankshafts: 1978: D84Y-6303-A / 1979/80: D94Y-6303-A.
Now y'all know why this 302 engine has a D8VE Lincoln bare block casting number.
D8VE-6015-A3A is the bare block casting number used for the specific to 302 engines installed in the 1978/80 Lincoln Versailles.
The 302 engines installed in 1977 Lincoln Versailles are the same as other passenger cars used in the 1970's.
However, in 1978/80...the Versailles 302 used specific: bare blocks, short blocks, cylinder heads, crankshafts: 1978: D84Y-6303-A / 1979/80: D94Y-6303-A.
Now y'all know why this 302 engine has a D8VE Lincoln bare block casting number.
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I can't say for sure on the 302 in the Versailles, but I can tell you for certain that Lincoln had their own version of the 460 and C6 in the 70's. As near as I could tell, they were exactly the same as the Ford units except for the motor and transmission mounts. They were oddballs and weren't available anywhere. You couldn't use standard 460 mounts either because the mounting bosses were different.
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I assume this had something to do with the Versailles only engine parts, which had specific Versailles part numbers.
You won't find, for example, a D84Y-6303-A crankshaft used in any other 1978 302 car/truck.
Why Ford bothered using a different 302 in these cars, I dunno. Despite all of Ford's efforts, the car didn't sell worth a hoot.
It was panned by all the car magazines, as nothing more than a gussied up Granada.
The same thing applied to the Mercury Monarch, that was almost identical to the Granada except for the grille and tailights.
Oh, I almost forgot...the plastic gas lid door (that usually broke off) said Monarch on it.
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