SCT Programmer and Gauges Advise.
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IMHO, the transmissions are nearly bulletproof if you don't ever tow.
The only thing is... do change oil and filter in it every 100,000 miles.
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From: Spokane, WA
I dont belive any of the insite , live wire will give you fuel presure. The reason I say that is the truck itself has no fuel pressure senor and as such the pid is not available on the factor scan tools.
But I have a question. If you dont ever tow anything is a trans gauge still needed?
But I have a question. If you dont ever tow anything is a trans gauge still needed?
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Lots of guys like the look of gauges and because they are mechanical, maybe they feel they are more accurate?
Insight is not too good to be true, but as stated, it does not measure fuel pressure.
It dose display fuel pressure for something, but I have never bothered to find out what exactly it is displaying.
It does measure everything that the truck monitors.
Another choice is the DashDaq (which I believe can also be used as a tuner?) but I don't know much about them (do a search).
I think an accurate trans gauge is very necessary - Ford obviously thought so otherwise why have one in the dash? The problem is that theirs is junk.
What if an oil cooler line leaks / breaks? Or the trans cooler itself develops a leak?
You are not going to know you have a serious problem until waaaaay too late.
Very cheap insurance.
Insight is not too good to be true, but as stated, it does not measure fuel pressure.
It dose display fuel pressure for something, but I have never bothered to find out what exactly it is displaying.
It does measure everything that the truck monitors.
Another choice is the DashDaq (which I believe can also be used as a tuner?) but I don't know much about them (do a search).
I think an accurate trans gauge is very necessary - Ford obviously thought so otherwise why have one in the dash? The problem is that theirs is junk.
What if an oil cooler line leaks / breaks? Or the trans cooler itself develops a leak?
You are not going to know you have a serious problem until waaaaay too late.
Very cheap insurance.
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Not sure what you mean by going to neutral? The trans has a fail safe? I've never heard of that, but if so that's great, but I'd still want to know it was getting hot. A monitor (or gauges) for about $300.00 or so to protect a $5,000 tranny is a no brainer for me.
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Alright, well maby I would get the Insight as well as get a seperate fuel pressure gauge and EGT gauge, instead of paying an extra $75 to get it with the insight. Or maby get the seperate fuel pressure and another key gauge that the Insight doesn't monitor? Does anyone know if the Insight doesn't monitor something important? Or does it pretty much cover everything besides fuel pressure?
Does anyone make a 2 gauge pod? What are some good Gauge companys to look at?
Thanks again, I've almost got everything figured out!
Does anyone make a 2 gauge pod? What are some good Gauge companys to look at?
Thanks again, I've almost got everything figured out!
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From: Moyock, NC
Alright, well maby I would get the Insight as well as get a seperate fuel pressure gauge and EGT gauge, instead of paying an extra $75 to get it with the insight. Or maby get the seperate fuel pressure and another key gauge that the Insight doesn't monitor? Does anyone know if the Insight doesn't monitor something important? Or does it pretty much cover everything besides fuel pressure?
Does anyone make a 2 gauge pod? What are some good Gauge companys to look at?
Thanks again, I've almost got everything figured out!
Does anyone make a 2 gauge pod? What are some good Gauge companys to look at?
Thanks again, I've almost got everything figured out!
Too funny!
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By the time it shows you its HOT it is already too late. My factory gauge will start to register @ 5 min after starting the truck. My REAL gauge may not register until 15 min. It will tell me EXACTLY what the temp is, not just somewhere betw. C and H. I believe the coolant gauge exhibits the same qualities. You will find many here will tell you that most of the fact. gauges are nothing more than a glorified idiot light with the exception of the boost gauge in the 05-up.
A call to one of the preferred tuners around here will net you all the info you need, but the quick and dirty is the X3 comes with 3 "canned" tunes for you to run until the rest of the process is completed. When you get your X3 you will plug it into the OBD port and the tuner will generate a list on its screen. One of these prompts is Get Strategy, which is what you need to receive your custom tunes. Once you provide your tuner of choice your strategy he will be able to get you the proper tunes for the strategy of YOUR truck. Without looking, theres prob. at least 4-5 different strategies for these trucks, and different tunes for each one respectively.
Before you "tune" your truck, it is ADVISABLE you at least have gauges to monitor what it's doing. Surely you can understand the importance of monitoring things such as EGT, boost, trans temp, etc...If you overboost you run the risk of "popping" the head gaskets, a tranny will set you back in the neighborhood of $5k. Need I say more? It is your truck and ultimately your choice. I'll see if I can find the Spartan archived tunes so you can see how many different tunes there can be for each different strategy.
A call to one of the preferred tuners around here will net you all the info you need, but the quick and dirty is the X3 comes with 3 "canned" tunes for you to run until the rest of the process is completed. When you get your X3 you will plug it into the OBD port and the tuner will generate a list on its screen. One of these prompts is Get Strategy, which is what you need to receive your custom tunes. Once you provide your tuner of choice your strategy he will be able to get you the proper tunes for the strategy of YOUR truck. Without looking, theres prob. at least 4-5 different strategies for these trucks, and different tunes for each one respectively.
Before you "tune" your truck, it is ADVISABLE you at least have gauges to monitor what it's doing. Surely you can understand the importance of monitoring things such as EGT, boost, trans temp, etc...If you overboost you run the risk of "popping" the head gaskets, a tranny will set you back in the neighborhood of $5k. Need I say more? It is your truck and ultimately your choice. I'll see if I can find the Spartan archived tunes so you can see how many different tunes there can be for each different strategy.
D8chumley...Thanks for fiilling motor-man in on why the strat code will be important later (if he decides to use custom tunes...which he should). Also the X3 no longer ships with the pre=programmed tunes ...now only the SF3 ships with the preprogrammed tunes ...five of them (Street, Performance, Tow 50HP, Tow 65HP, and Trans Only).
Motor-man...the importance of the Tranny temp gauge is knowing when you are over 100*F...important...most don't go over 2000rpms until this temp is reached. Also optimum temp for the Torqueshift is between 160-165*F, if it goes higher, okay, but 215*F...you're going to want to know that. The factory dash gauge just jumps up to the middle after warming up...then stays there...ever see anything different than that....I doubt it.
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D8chumley...Thanks for fiilling motor-man in on why the strat code will be important later (if he decides to use custom tunes...which he should).
