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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 04:29 PM
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I like that Sky Manu. kit. 12 Pump, with the Fabtech kit and 350 blocks in the rear you are sitting level? That is what I would like to do, 350 blocks in the rear and something to level out the front end. Got any pics of your truck 12 pump?
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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I forgot mini-spring packs the second time. I personally don't care for them. Some say they are not legal bc it is essentially a block for the front suspension. They will not pass a DOT inspection by a hard nosed inspector. They are resonably priced and do maintain factory ride.

That Sky kit seems to be the most reasonable kit on the market. If I ever man up to 350 blocks I will probably add that kit to my heavy springs.

Allow me to edit. Taking from the Sky webpage, "Note: Factory crash bar is not reused with hanger kits." When installing a Western/Fisher plow (and I think most others) you have to remove the factory crash bar. I wonder if this will not work with a snow plow???
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 05:03 PM
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You might want to check that comment about "don`t have a track bar with leaf springs" . I have a 2000 F350 4x4 and it has exactly that.
I don't have one of these trucks yet so I guess I shouldn't comment like that, but I've never seen a leaf spring truck with a trac bar. I don't know why there would be one. Leaf springs should provide enough lateral support to keep the axle located. That's like putting a trac bar on a proper (triangulated) 4-link. Seems pointless.

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Allow me to edit. Taking from the Sky webpage, "Note: Factory crash bar is not reused with hanger kits." When installing a Western/Fisher plow (and I think most others) you have to remove the factory crash bar. I wonder if this will not work with a snow plow???
It depends on if the plow requires the bar to be removed to utilize the mounting points or just because it's in the way. Either way, I feel like it would only require some light modification to make the plow work.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 05:22 PM
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Rubicon Suspension makes 2.5" extended front mount for the front springs. Similar to the Sky product but no additional shackle. Rather pricey but another idea. Web page says "image missing" but I have it right here. Could have sworn I clicked on "Save Image" and not "Steal Image".
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by tsmall07
I don't have one of these trucks yet so I guess I shouldn't comment like that, but I've never seen a leaf spring truck with a trac bar. I don't know why there would be one. Leaf springs should provide enough lateral support to keep the axle located. That's like putting a trac bar on a proper (triangulated) 4-link. Seems pointless.



It depends on if the plow requires the bar to be removed to utilize the mounting points or just because it's in the way. Either way, I feel like it would only require some light modification to make the plow work.
That would not be the first time Ford has done something pointless. Maybe with the heavy diesel mtr the truck requires it to steer staight
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 09:23 PM
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...It depends on if the plow requires the bar to be removed to utilize the mounting points or just because it's in the way. Either way, I feel like it would only require some light modification to make the plow work.
Doesn't use the mounting point, but there is support crap between the frame horns that need to be where the crash bar is. The plow frame is pretty much a crash bar anyhow.
I take it these things use the three holes or some of them to mount? I guess I didn't really look at how it all would happen up there.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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I used the mini pack kit and for my truck it was 2 1/2 inch and leveled it up very nice.
1999-2004 Ford F250 Suspension Lift Kits - jackit.com - The Suspension Experts
Ride is a little stiffer, but more control due to less bounce.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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I have the sanderson mini pack 99-04 Ford F250/F350 Super Duty 2.8" Leveling Lift Kit:eBay Motors (item 330389557871 end time Jan-03-10 02:35:02 PST) and I'm happy with it. thinking of doing the 4.5" kit he'll sell it for like 135. Then 2.5 on top of my rear blocks. Of course then i'll have to find a good track bar and carrier bearing shim
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Wow Barry that is a nice kit.

When I was at Beans a couple of weeks ago their was a 04 6.0 that had 2.5s in the front 1 inch in the rear with some 315 tires on some all Chrome Dick Cpeck wheels and it just looked perfect.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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[quote=tsmall07;8277753]Leveling "Kits" (for the most part) are a waste of money. I worked for a truck accessories company and we installed a leveling kit on a 2001 F250. It cost $800 and all it consisted of was a longer shackle and a couple plates of steel that dropped the other spring mount. Another "kit" was $400 and all it had was a book of instructions that said to crank up the tortion bars and it had a block for the rear.

You could get what you want made locally at a machine shop for much less or order from a company like Blue Torch Fab. They'll make whatever you want.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is, buying a kit from a lift company like skyjacker is a waste. A fab company will charge you much less. Also, you don't have a trac bar with leaf springs. I'm assuming you mean the drag link. IMO, you don't need an adjustable drag link until you go over 4" of lift.

What company was that? Too bad there is lots of junk out there. But there are those companies that sell quality level and lifts. True they are a bit pricy and they are work to install. But if you have the time and a few bucks....well worth it. The kit I put on mine came with two complete sets of springs. Recurved progressive spring rate design which picked up the front end a measured 3". Kit was 2 1/2" so I guess my OEM springs had sagged out some. No long shackles. New drag link parts, new U bolts and all attaching hardware. The instructions were detailed and there was help available on line and via phone if needed. Alignment checked before and after was right on.
The difference in the ride is day and night. It rides more like coils in the front. Softer on the bumps and ruts, without the bang of the heavy flat OEM's every time you hit a pot hole.
Mine is a 250 so it looked nose high after the front was installed. Not a big fan of tall lift blocks so I opted for add-a-leaf. Ther are two kinds of kits. One put a leaf at the bottom of the pack. The other is a long recurved spring that you have to dis-assemble the rear spring to install. You also have to replace the guide bolt and should replace the U-bolts as well. Both front and rear kits came with new longer shocks as well. The hole thing front and rear cost about a grand in Canadian dollars and a couple of weekends laying on the driveway.
For what it's worth, a quality kit is the way to go. I think bad engineering may create an unsafe vehicle.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 02:54 AM
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i have rough country's levelin kit and i was runnin 315's with no problem and those springs hae been on there for a long time, they were the prototypes. now i run 35's on 22's
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by bruce51d
i have rough country's levelin kit and i was runnin 315's with no problem and those springs hae been on there for a long time, they were the prototypes. now i run 35's on 22's
There's a lot of great kits to pick from. But I think you got to spend the bucks to get something decent. I don't think I would skrimp on something like steering and suspension when lifting a vehicle weighing nearly 4 tons. Weight and poor control are a dangerous combo.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Track bar relocating bracket is what I was thinking of earlier. I noticed the kit Barry linked to includes one of those. It also says it includes an add a leaf for the rear if the truck only has the 2" blocks. The kit another Barry suggested also includes a track bar relocating bracket, but most of the others I've seen do not.

Seems as if most agree the ride is a little firmer. She's already got new Bilsteins so no help from new shocks.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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The Procomp kit has the trackbar relocating part as well.On mine front ride is softer and didn't notice a change in the rear.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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i was just looking on sandersons website at the 4.5" kits and he says you dont need any other stuff like new pitman arm and such. what gives? is that true or false? i have his front shackles on my truck now and the ride is fine. it levelled my 250 perfectly. i put x code springs on my excursion and like them as well. i may like another 2.5" of lift on my truck if i dont have to replace steering geometry without compromising control. what say you all??
 
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