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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 06:25 PM
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i started out with propane torpedo type but the noise was to much like to play radio. i bought a confection construction heater 85,000 btu it seams to get it warm enough and i use a couple milk hose heaters for toolbox 1300 btu. other wise tool sweat when warming up a 30lb pig runs about 18 hrs on high. the torpedo was the same size would stick a engine block in front of it
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:07 PM
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I'd say insulation is the cheapest way to go and then you only have to add a little bit of heat, if you have natural gas in you area I'd go that route. My shop is 24x24 well insulated and costs very little to heat, not much more than $100 a year using a 45,000 btu suspended heating unit. When I'm not in the shop I keep the thermostat set for 50F, turn up to 70F and in 15 minutes very comfortable. I also insulated under my concrete pad with 2'' of styrofoam.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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ct50f1, welcome to the site! Glad to have another states man here! I too have been thinking about heat my garage. I now run a kerosene heater now. I just bought some this weekend and it was 4.29 a gallon! Ouch!! Im looking to talk to a guy on a heating system for the garage this week.
I've got a small kerosene heater my brother-in-law bought at a tag sale years ago. I used to use in my old garage which was attached to the house and had sheetrock on the walls. I tried using it last week in my current building just to try and take the chill off but it didn't do much. I think I bought the kerosene about ten years ago. If I'd known what the kerosene was worth I might turned it off sooner.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by rbig1
i started out with propane torpedo type but the noise was to much like to play radio. i bought a confection construction heater 85,000 btu it seams to get it warm enough and i use a couple milk hose heaters for toolbox 1300 btu. other wise tool sweat when warming up a 30lb pig runs about 18 hrs on high. the torpedo was the same size would stick a engine block in front of it
Thanks for your comment about the noise with the torpedo type heaters. It's one of the things people writing reviews on the Northern Tool site complained about. I like to listen to the radio too.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 08:04 PM
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20x24 shop goes to minus 30 celcuis here I got a forced air wood stove works well wood is cheap way up by the artic circle coldist i seen here was minus 42 celcuis to cold to go out never mind the garage
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 09:20 PM
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Go see someone in the HVAC business. They are starting to cgange out the older forced air units for higher effeincy units. You can usally change the orfice in them for propane or to nat. gas. Put cord on them for blower motor power [110]. I have picked them up for free. Hope this helps.
This is the ave that I think I will go down. Seems like you can find used furnaces everywhere for little to nothing. Guess my biggest concern is that I dont know much about forced air furnaces so its hard to make an educated decision. The blower's energy requirements the furnaces energy requirements and which fuel is more cost effective for occasional use, natural gas or propane?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 10:21 PM
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i bought the confection heater at menards. the area above it gets hot so make sure its in the open if you go that way. my area is only 24x28 8'walls
 
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Old Dec 22, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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This is the ave that I think I will go down. Seems like you can find used furnaces everywhere for little to nothing. Guess my biggest concern is that I dont know much about forced air furnaces so its hard to make an educated decision. The blower's energy requirements the furnaces energy requirements and which fuel is more cost effective for occasional use, natural gas or propane?
Central home furnaces' fans just plug into a standard 15 amp receptacle.

The cost of all petroleum products vary with the price of oil; while the price of natural gas is regulated, and tracks energy prices with a lag. Kerosene is about the most expensive, propane/LPG next lower, natural gas is usually cheaper. It really depends what you already have at your house; if you had to add a LPG tank and piping, or had to extend your natural gas line, you are probably better off using Kerosene or electric heaters unless you intend to be there quite a while.

There's always solar...
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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Whatever method you choose, consider this: 'tis better to heat the garage up to 60-70 from 40, than from -40. IE, I would put in a heater with a thermostat that can be set to 40F when you are away, and can turn up when you plan to be in there. It takes a tremendous amount of heat energy to bring a piece of steel such as a truck up to temp that has sat in the garage at -40F. That said, radiant tubes from the ceiling is a nice way to retrofit. The "hot-dawg" heaters that hang in the corner are nice as well, and don't take up floor space.

In my own garage, I have two 80,000btu torpedo heaters that work, but don't last long. The woodstove I installed I had to remove due to the ins. co. stopping by, and ever since then, I've been broke enough not to buy a "hot-dawg", lol. Now that the trailer is torn down, I've thought about using the furnace from that, which is oil, convertable to propane. And just use the 100# tank I have.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Northern Tool carries a nice 45000 BTU propane cieling hung unit for around $500 (Mr. Heater), it requires a certain amount of permanent installation but should work good. I am in Canada and am waiting for one to come in from the local TSC store but they are backordered. They also make the same thing in a 75000 BTU which I may go with. It is -21 C this morning so I need something. I have a portable kerosine heater that works well but is noisy, smelly and expensive to run.

Winster is too long not to heat the shop, good luck
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Northern Tool carries a nice 45000 BTU propane cieling hung unit for around $500 (Mr. Heater), it requires a certain amount of permanent installation but should work good. I am in Canada and am waiting for one to come in from the local TSC store but they are backordered. They also make the same thing in a 75000 BTU which I may go with. It is -21 C this morning so I need something. I have a portable kerosine heater that works well but is noisy, smelly and expensive to run.

Winster is too long not to heat the shop, good luck
Princess Auto also sells a the heaters your speaking of, I have the Reznor 45,000 which is more than capable of heating my 24x24 shop.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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Those 45000, and 75000 units are what I'm talking about when I say Hot Dawg. (Bull Dawg is another name)
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Whatever method you choose, consider this: 'tis better to heat the garage up to 60-70 from 40, than from -40. IE, I would put in a heater with a thermostat that can be set to 40F when you are away, and can turn up when you plan to be in there. It takes a tremendous amount of heat energy to bring a piece of steel such as a truck up to temp that has sat in the garage at -40F. ....
Exactly right, but watch the bucks fly out of your wallet if you commit to keeping it above freezing 24/7. All depends on whether it's insulated and relatively tight. Personally I don't need it above 50 if I'm working.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 09:40 AM
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Yeah, I would insulate first and foremost. The insulation will pay for itself over time.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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in my specific case our house is on Natural gas. Its a new house with a 3.5 car attached. The builder didnt insulate the garage at all so I have work to do there but I would like to run wiring for lights and a couple ceiling fans before I get to that stage. I will keep an eye out for a used furnace for the garage... then have it plumbed when the money is there for it.

My wife says that she will never move again. So if thats truely the case and I do believe her, then we will be here for awhile. I know nothing of running gas line so i guess its better to have someone do that for me. All I know is that I need heat in this garage if I am going to have any hope of getting the trucks close to where I want them to be.
 
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