Isnt the FE technically a Y-block? I always call it an FE block, cause you call it a big block someone will try to you its not a big block, but cant tell you what it is, But then again if you think about it, FE is a name...we dont call the 351c a cleveland block, we call it a small block, So hehe what ya gonna do?

 

72, you gotta get straightened out with your posting, it was funny the first time but the second....

Just post the message once, OK :-)

John
jowilker

66 F100s
In the still cool hours of the night, you can hear chevys rusting away.

 

After carefully reading FORDTRUCKMAN1976’s first response, it looks like either he got the rods swapped or the phrasing is a little fuzzy. The 360 has the longer rods for its shorter stroke while the 390 uses the shorter rods for its longer stroke. I’m sure that’s what he meant but the verbiage is not clear. Not to start a feud of any kind but we are all trying to help each other with our common knowledge and experience in a respectful manner. Isn’t that what this board is all about?

390GT you’re right! It’s amazing how the FE grew up from 332 to 428 cubic inches, talk about advanced planning on those bore centers. It was one of the Big Blocks for its time along with the MEL engine which was even bigger (and heavier). The 385 series block is physically larger than the FE, it’s a brute.

Jowilker, all V8’s that I can think of are 90 degree V designs. It’s the block deck height and head width & height that make for the distance between the valve covers. It’s interesting how similar displacement engines can externally look so different. Personally, I always thought the 385 series look a lot like a Big Block Che_y, just add a little orange paint and….

72FordF100, the FE is indeed a Y-block design with its deep skirt. To further add to the confusion, the Modular V8 is also a deep skirt design. Wonder if those ‘Stang owners would mind us calling it a Y-block? Hey wait, that old MEL engine was a Y-block too, oh my head hurts!

 

". Personally, I always thought the 385 series look a lot like a Big Block Che_y, just add a little orange paint and…."



Don't forget to install the distributor in the back of the engine and cut a hole in the firewall so that you can adjust the timing while you drive. One of GM's better ideas...

Not!!!

 

Well if Cartman wasn't confused before he certainly ought to be by now.

Trail Rider

 

speaking of THE "Y" and the MEL..in the day...thats why i think of the FE of a medium...
Y being the baby of the bunch....MEL being the monster......FE>.well...being the medium
by the way...what does the y stand for...or just the shape of the block?
i know MEL is mercury-edsel-lincoln.....
Anybody need someFE heads?
i'm in the process of porting and polishing right now?

 

Ok, heres more fuel for the fire.....

I think that Bigblock/smallblock terminology fits better w/ GM's.

When I think of Smallblocks, I think of the Windsor family ie: 221,255,260,289,302,351W. Of coarse branched off of this from the Boss 302 is the Cleveland 351C and similar 400. Branched off of that is the M motors 351M,400. Unlike smallblock chevs, there is limited interchangibility to these engines. Mostly the 289 and 302 interchange, and the Cleveland/M motors interchange alot of parts.

Re FE's being "Y-blocks", yes they have a Yblock design but there is a prior family of Y-blocks that use that name.

Also, although the engine described is most certainly a bored 360FE.....there is now a "smallblock" 392 being sold by Ford Performance. It's a stroker 351W.

This smallblock/bigblock thing just doesn't work well with the Ford engine Families.

IMHO

BBT

 

take that bowtie big or smallblock....
and an FE will smoke it every time.......
remember...FE stands for FAST EVERYDAY

 

[FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE="+1" FACE="Veranda"]Just to clarify some things I read in this thread--The Y-block and V-block designs refer to the relative position of the crank shaft as it sits in the block as compared to the intersection of the bore centerlines. The crank centerline on a Y-block is below the cylinder bore line intersection points whereas the crank on a V-design is at the bore line intersection points. Hence the respective blocks look like a Y and a V. I will try to find a good representative picture of both and post them later.[/FONT]


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Painting it orange, and moving the distributor is not enough!!! Your gonna have to make sure all the gaskets are bad!, And dont forget to run it without oil, shoot a rod, and then set it in your yard, THEN youll have a Chevy engine :P Of course if it was a chevy engine, i guess it would really do all that on its own?

 

If "Ford Engine" doesn't hold water, then what doesn't "Edsel" hold?? ; ) Edsel's were around for what- 2-3 years? why would they name an entire series of engines after them? Lincolns are fords, too, does that mean we should call them fords? If they are all fords, why aren't they called fords? It's "Ford Engine" that's the series, trust me.

 

oleblue, Since you not old enough to remember the history. The Ford Edsel aka FE engine group was developed and was first introduced in the Edsel car in the late 50s. The car had many features that were ahead of it's time and just didn't sell, however the engine family was a greater success and for nearly it's twenty year run was one of the more popular engines that Ford has built. The 390 is still a highly sought after engine today. :-)

John
jowilker

66 F100s
In the still cool hours of the night, you can hear chevys rusting away.

 

Edsel was one of Mr. Fords sons i believe..
1958 was the 352's first year..what was the first year for the 332?

 

The 332 was first introduced in 1958 and lasted only 2 years, here's the limited application infomation I have:

1958 Ford
332 C.I. 265HP@4600 360TORQUE@2800 9.5C.R. 2V

1959 Ford + Edsel
332 C.I. 225HP@4400 325TORQUE@2200 8.9C.R. 2V

 

Being a machinist, I have to put out the dim's
bore strk rod
352- 4.00 x 3.50 6.540
360 4.05 x 3.50 6.488
390 4.05 x 3.78 6.488
427 4.23 x 3.78 6.488
428 4.13 x 3.98 6.488

from here there is some shuffling to produce the 406,410 and I think the 430

Jim