I have heard referance to large flywheel/clutch combinations in our larger trucks. 13" or more. Can anyone comment on the six cylinder arrangement? Perhaps numberdummy? Auto & light truck use an 11" unit. The proper bell housing also, for late sixtys application in f 600. thank you all.

 

C5TZ6375E .. Flywheel / Use with 11" Clutch / 240 & 300 Light Duty.

Marked: C5TE-6380-E / 184 tooth ring gear / 14 27/32" diameter / (6) 5/16" -18 pressure plate attaching holes on a 12 3/8" bolt circle.

Fits: 1965/71 B/F/N500/600 with 4 Speed Manual Transmission.
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C5TZ6375B .. Flywheel / Use with 12" clutch / 240, 300 Light Duty & 300 Heavy Duty.

Marked: C5TE-6380-B / 184 tooth ring gear / 14 13/16" diameter / (6) 5/16" -18 pressure plate attaching holes on a 12 7/8" bolt circle.

Fits: 1965/71 B/F/N500/600 with 4 or 5 Speed Manual Transmission / 1972 B/F500 with 4 or 5 Speed Manual Transmission.
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C5TZ6375S .. Flywheel / Use with 13" clutch / 300 Heavy Duty.

Marked: C7TE-6380-E / 184 tooth ring gear / 14 27/32" diameter / (8) 3/8" -16 pressure plate attaching holes on a 14 1/8" bolt circle.

Fits: 1965/72.
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C5TZ7505E .. Bell Housing / Marked: C5TA-7505-A or C7TA-7505-A.

Fits: 1965/69 B/C/F/N500/600 240/300 / Use with 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

Fits: Same as above with 5 Speed Manual Transmission.

Fits: 1970/72 B/C/F/LN500/600 240/300 / Use with Warner T-19 (4 speed); Clark 280V (5 speed); New Process 435 (4 speed) & 542 (5 speed) Tranmissions.

 

Ah what a gem you are. Thank you. I hope all who ask of you truely appreciate you. There is no substitute for information. Thank you again.

 

I know this is an old thread, apologies in advance..... I have a bell housing that is an C7TA-7505-A. I was hoping for some help in finding a correct truck to reference for clutch and flywheel parts.... I have a wood chipper that has the same bell housing and Ford 300 Industrial motor in it. The flywheel should be 184 teeth, however I do not have the flywheel, or any of the clutch components as I bought the chipper in pieces to repair... I am almost certain I could get the parts from a local parts store if I knew what truck to tell them to look up parts for... Perhaps NumberDummy would be able to help? Any help is appreciated at this point, I was trying to figure out how to send a direct message to NumberDummy but I couldn't figure it out... As far as I can tell from my research this bell housing is from a 67 bronco with a 300 6 cylinder in it or a Ford D series truck with a 300 in it.. It has a separator or starter plate that has two different bell housing patterns on it, one for the 300 6 and the other looks like SBF with the top two bolts being 5 1/8" apart. I am also trying to come up with a flywheel cover in addition to the clutch and flywheel components, knowing exactly what vehicle the bell housing is from would really help me out. Thanks!

 

The truck applications are listed in post 2. For a chipper, an 11" clutch should work,

Forget the '67 Bronco. They had the small sixes or a 289 V8. This bell might have worked on the 289, but the applications above are for medium trucks. It might take some doing to find an auto parts guy who knows what a '71 F600 is, but that's the guy who can look these up at the auto parts store level.

Also, what kind of gearbox does this bolt up to? Do you have the input shaft? Pictures? How do you work the clutch?

 

So here are some pictures of it. Basically a big handle to control the throwout bearing and engage the pulleys for the chipper belts. I guess my question now is what are the other models that are listed in NumberDummys response. He says:

"Fits: 1965/69 B/C/F/N500/600 240/300 / Use with 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

Fits: Same as above with 5 Speed Manual Transmission.

Fits: 1970/72 B/C/F/LN500/600 240/300 / Use with Warner T-19 (4 speed); Clark 280V (5 speed); New Process 435 (4 speed) & 542 (5 speed) Tranmissions."

Now what are all of those models? What does B/C/F/N500/600 stand for? I assume 240/300 refer to the fact that it fits the 240 and the 300 block, but I am not sure what B/C/F/N500/600. Is the B for Bronco? I have called to see if I could get an F600 flywheel with 184 teeth already and they say they are obsolete... and I also need the separator plate also which seems to be a special plate that I have not been able to find except in pictures of Industrial Ford 300 motors mounted to bell housings like the one I have, but I have been able to find that this bell housing came behind more than one model.. Once I know all the models it came behind I will be in a much better position to find the flywheel cover, clutch stuff, and separator plate.. The pictures I have included also have an image of the separator plate that came on the industrial 300 I sourced for the chipper, however the bell housing it goes with is shaped differently and is designed to be used with hydraulic pump not a pulley like the chipper. I could do some welding and make it work, because it does mount to my block and bell housing, but I would like to have the flywheel cover first also so when I mod it I can make it match the flywheel cover too.... Clear as mud? Kind of interesting the date that is stamped into the bell housing is 11-2-89 which doesn't match any of the years I found for the part number....

 

OK that looks like a medium truck bell. Iron with the side mounting provisions. But the date code might mean it was carried over for the industrial. I'm not sure.

The B/C/F/N/LN indicate "Bus" for the B, and Ford's line of medium trucks for the rest. 240/300 is as you say, those two engines in the medium trucks. Fairly rare.

Courtesy of an old Numberdummy post:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...7d9b6f01c6.jpg

C series, courtesy of member mike2366:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...4&d=1262634118

That separator plate you have--all that's for is to space the bell, separate an iron block from an aluminum bell, and provide some protection for the back of the block, although I'm not sure what good it would do. So if it fits just use it.

You have a pressure plate there. What is the diameter of the bolt circle where is bolts to the flywheel?

What is the diameter and spline count on the input shaft shown?

By flywheel cover, do you mean the lower dust cover to be fitted to the bottom front of the bell housing? You may be able to adapt one from a light truck or you may have to beat one out of a cookie sheet.

Is the rest of this chipper servicable?

All the parts for this are "obsolete".

The 11/2/89 date cast into the bell does not fit the usual Ford date code. Is there a Ford oval or other mark on it? The C7... part decodes to 1967, but it's not unusual for parts like that to remain the same for decades.

A source for 300 industrial stuff. Read his hints about the ring gear. Do you have a working starter?

https://www.foleyengines.com/product...-engine-parts/

There is a PDF with the parts breakdown on this one, "...Technical Publications", you'll see it under CSG 649:
https://www.pittauto.com/default.asp...es/pl_ford.htm

 

Are the separator plates usually 3/16" for these applications? Years ago I had a pickup with a 300 six and a granny 4 speed and when I did the clutch I want to say it was similar. Whats weird about the separator is that it looks like it has two bell housing patterns in it almost, bolts to block and then to the bell from both sides if that makes sense, like you couldn't bolt up the bell to the block without the plate at all. Kinda like an adapter. The plate from the pic is actually different because the bell on the 300 I bought for the chipper is different, but as I said I could modify it. I was hoping to find the flywheel/dust cover from the original application and modify the separator plate to match the correct cover (mainly because I am OCD...)

I have included some pictures of the pressure plate that I have which I believe is the original Ford pressure plate. The shaft is 10 spline and 1.367". I believe there is a Ford oval on it the bell housing somewhere. I do have the starter. I just sent an email to the foley guy, we'll see what he comes up with!



I read the tech tips and I understand what they are saying about the pitch for the flywheel and the starter, I assumed that the motors they used in these Bus's and F600's would have been industrial as well?

 

Medium truck motors weren't designated as Industrial, but did have some HD components vs. a pickup engine. The sixes may have had steel cranks, most of the V8s did. The six has a heavier exhaust manifold. External parts still interchange.

It looks like that pressure plate works for the 11" clutch, so note the bolt circle for attaching it and be aware of that when getting a flywheel.

 

Looking at the photo it looks like you have everything.
That spacer plate is thicker than normal because it's actually an adapter plate that allows a bigger bell housing to be fitted to the engine, the plate bolts to the engine and then the bell housing will fit to the adapter plate.
The larger bell housing makes room for the larger clutches used the big truck and Industrial apps.
Looking at the photo that appears to be the flywheel under the adapter plate.
You need a 11" clutch with 1 3/8" splines which is the standard spline size for Ford MD truck transmissions.

 

Yes exactly what I figured, it is an adapter rather than a separator plate..Ya that flywheel was on the industrial motor I bought for the chipper but it is designed for a coupler not a clutch setup because the motor was setup to power a hydraulic pump on a line painter.. That flywheel is the only way that I know I need the 184 tooth flywheel though. Having a hard time finding that flywheel cover....

I think I might of found two places that have the parts for the clutch and flywheel, I am waiting on a call back to see for sure...

 

C5TZ-7505-E .. Bell Housing / Marked: C5TA-7505-A or C7TA-7505-A) / Obsolete

1965/69 B/C/F/N600/600 240/300 I-6 4 & 5 Speed // 1970/78 B/C/F/LN500/600 I-6 (gas) with Warner T-19 & New Process 435 4 Speeds, Clark 280 & New Process 542 5 Speeds.

 

Thanks Numberdummy. Any idea where to get the 184 tooth flywheel that would have bolted to this Ford 300? I am having trouble finding one. I found one vendor that has the 180 tooth one and I assume that I could just switch the ring gear, but the place that sells it is saying the diameter of the flywheel is not the same... Any help is appreciated!

I found a flywheel cover at a place in Canada for a decent price and the flywheel is really the last thing I need to put this thing together.

 

I see that there are some 184 tooth V8 flywheels that were internally balanced also, I am starting to think the industrial motors used those flywheels. The part number off the ring gear that I have is C5AE6384A. Problem is the flywheel it is on is setup to bolt to a coupler not a clutch pack.

 

C5TZ-6375-B .. 240/300 I-6 Flywheel - Use with 12" clutch / 184T Ring Gear / 14 13/16" diameter / (6) 5/16-18 pressure plate attaching holes on a 12 7/8" bolt circle / Obsolete

1965/69 N500/600 // 1965/71 B500/600 (School Bus), C500/600 (Tilt Cab), F500/600 // 1972/78 B/F500/600 300 I-6.

Note: This flywheel was replaced in 1978 by D8TZ-6375-C that has a 180T ring gear.

No Ford dealer or obsolete parts vendor has either flywheel, try NAPA