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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 03:45 AM
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I know the cold issues are just rolling in lately but I have a new one.

Put my new starter in yesterday and I am still having the clicking issue. I am going to guess that I need a new relay next.

More importantly I had a new problem today. While driving down the road maybe 4 or 5 miles (truck had warmed up but it was -9 F outside) the truck began to stumble and miss.

Almost sounded like it was missing on a cylinder but no codes were thrown. Tried to ease it along until she died. Got her fired up after a little bit and tried again, did it again.

Then I have my starting issue and the truck sat for about 20 minutes. By a stroke of luck the truck turned over and started running. She ran fine all the way home and I am back in the warm.

I went ahead and put a bunch of cardboard over my radiator incase the cool air was just freezing the truck up but I don't know if that was the case. It has been sitting for about 3 weeks and I did put anti gel in it.

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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Sounds like classic fuel gelling to me. Did you put in plain anti-gel or something like Diesel 911?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:26 AM
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Sounds like classic fuel gelling to me. Did you put in plain anti-gel or something like Diesel 911?
I have had a bottle of the white stuff in there. I put what I thought was 20oz in it when I last filled up.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:39 AM
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Get you some Diesel 911 and try that next time. Bet that's it.....
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 05:51 AM
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I will see if I can limp it out to the gas station that has the stuff. Should I keep 911 in it at all times? I have a bottle of the white stuff right now DS, maybe I should add more.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:03 AM
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Are you putting the additive (white bottle DK, 911, whatever) in BEFORE you fill the tank or AFTER? You always want to put it in the tank first, then fill. You probably know this, but I'm trying to be thorough...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Gel... If you had a fuel pressure gauge you would see it bottoming out...

Mine starts to die at about 7-10psi...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by papadelogan
Are you putting the additive (white bottle DK, 911, whatever) in BEFORE you fill the tank or AFTER? You always want to put it in the tank first, then fill. You probably know this, but I'm trying to be thorough...
I usually put it in first. But looking back that may have been what I did wrong.

Why does it die after i get going for a while? Just consuming the gelled up fuel faster than it can thaw out on the way to the engine?
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Quick444
I will see if I can limp it out to the gas station that has the stuff. Should I keep 911 in it at all times? I have a bottle of the white stuff right now DS, maybe I should add more.
I do. never know where you may be when and if it happens. Also you may by able to help may other PSD that is having gelling problems.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by maevans
I do. never know where you may be when and if it happens. Also you may by able to help may other PSD that is having gelling problems.
I meant in the tank, but having it in the truck would be a good idea from now on.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Yeah, keep a bottle in the truck for "emergencies". The 911 is for when the fuel has started to gel and helps regain fuel flow.

Have you changed the starter relay? They can cause a problem if they don't make contact on both big terminals. If you have a volt meter, you can test the relay output from the "other" large terminal when it is only clicking. It is easiest to have someone turn the key for you while you test the output but you can do it yourself by jumping the start terminal at the relay. BE CAREFUL! Sparks will fly.....
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 08:20 AM
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The 911 product is meant to clear up a gelled spot. Its not really mentioned to use as preventative if that's what your asking. It will actually move through the lines and clear up gelling even with the truck not running awesome stuff we use it on on our rd macks
 
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Originally Posted by rat49f6
The 911 product is meant to clear up a gelled spot. Its not really mentioned to use as preventative if that's what your asking. It will actually move through the lines and clear up gelling even with the truck not running awesome stuff we use it on on our rd macks
What he said... Keep using the white bottle as a constant additive, and drop in the red bottle when you gel...
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CSIPSD
Gel... If you had a fuel pressure gauge you would see it bottoming out...

Mine starts to die at about 7-10psi...
x2, I think that the fuel pressure gauge is very under rated.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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I would think you should be getting diesel that has been treated with kerosene. Might take a jar of fuel and set it outside overnight to see what it looks like.
 
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