Duraspark II conversion help
#31
01-04-2010, 10:22 PM
sounds like fun! you really know your stuff when it comes to converting to
#32
01-05-2010, 01:06 PM
Oh I see now what you are asking for. These were just hanging I wired them up to the firewall, because I didn't know where the vacume lines hooked up to. I tried to follow the sticker I posted for the other guy, but a lot of things are missing. The wires are hooked hooked up to something in a harness. But I have not a clue what or where it goes.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...f/IMG_1705.jpg
So I too can get rid of this mess too?
The wiring in the truck is a complete mess with lots of things un hooked.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ff/VoltReg.jpg
[url]http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll77/rlheim/Ford%20Stuff/WireMess2.jpg
What a mess I have here. But the damn thing runs!
As you can see I have some future questions coming!
Rick
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...f/IMG_1705.jpg
So I too can get rid of this mess too?
The wiring in the truck is a complete mess with lots of things un hooked.
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ff/VoltReg.jpg
[url]http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll77/rlheim/Ford%20Stuff/WireMess2.jpg
What a mess I have here. But the damn thing runs!
As you can see I have some future questions coming!
Rick
You will get ride of the 3 solenoids you have wired to the firewall, they used to be mounted to the back of the valve cover on the 86.
Also I noticed in one of your photos that you have a voltage regulator mounted next to the starter solenoid. The 86 would have had an ALT with an internal voltage regulator, or to say a 2G ALT. A 2G ALT has plugs for the wires and a 1G has a post/stud for the power output wire.
Jim
#33
01-05-2010, 03:19 PM
Junior User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St Louis Mo
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You will get ride of the 3 solenoids you have wired to the firewall, they used to be mounted to the back of the valve cover on the 86.
Also I noticed in one of your photos that you have a voltage regulator mounted next to the starter solenoid. The 86 would have had an ALT with an internal voltage regulator, or to say a 2G ALT. A 2G ALT has plugs for the wires and a 1G has a post/stud for the power output wire.
Jim
Also I noticed in one of your photos that you have a voltage regulator mounted next to the starter solenoid. The 86 would have had an ALT with an internal voltage regulator, or to say a 2G ALT. A 2G ALT has plugs for the wires and a 1G has a post/stud for the power output wire.
Jim
Here is my wire mess: A pure nightmare--
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l.../WireMess2.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ff/VoltReg.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l.../WireMess1.jpg
I wanted ot know from you Jim if this is the Dist you were talking about it is one of the 3 listed for my year motor and and size. It soys it is wothout a module, what module and where is it and hook up to?
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...%20Stuff/8.jpg
This is 71.00 bucks.
Rick
#34
01-05-2010, 04:05 PM
Yea when I got the truck it had an old voltage reg there and the alt was bad and not hooked up. I went to american auto parts and got a new alt and they gave me to one with the posts to slide over. And that is the reg they gave me to replace the old one.
Here is my wire mess: A pure nightmare--
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l.../WireMess2.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ff/VoltReg.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l.../WireMess1.jpg
I wanted ot know from you Jim if this is the Dist you were talking about it is one of the 3 listed for my year motor and and size. It soys it is wothout a module, what module and where is it and hook up to?
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...%20Stuff/8.jpg
This is 71.00 bucks.
Rick
Here is my wire mess: A pure nightmare--
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l.../WireMess2.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...ff/VoltReg.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l.../WireMess1.jpg
I wanted ot know from you Jim if this is the Dist you were talking about it is one of the 3 listed for my year motor and and size. It soys it is wothout a module, what module and where is it and hook up to?
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...%20Stuff/8.jpg
This is 71.00 bucks.
Rick
I would have recommend a 2G ALT as you truck has the matching plugs for it (1986) and it would have been easier to hook up. Do you have a amp meter in the instrument cluster? Does it work?
<O
</OThe Dist in the photo looks like the one I was going to recommend from AutoZone.
<O
</ONew, Cardone P/N 84-2669 $71.99, New - with cap/rotor and NO core charge
Jim
#36
01-05-2010, 04:53 PM
Junior User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St Louis Mo
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
[quote=JimsRebel;8324977]Wow, it is a mess, surprised you got the ALT to work.
I would have recommend a 2G ALT as you truck has the matching plugs for it (1986) and it would have been easier to hook up. Do you have a amp meter in the instrument cluster? Does it work?
Yes I have one in the cluster and it does not work. I can't find the wires to hook it up. I find the ones off the alt and from the volt reg, it's a male/ female plug and the book says that is it. I can't find the wire and oposite plug to go into the dash. Go figure!
<O</O
The Dist in the photo looks like the one I was going to recommend from AutoZone.
<O</O
New, Cardone P/N 84-2669 $71.99, New - with cap/rotor and NO core charge
Yea that is the one. Thanks!!! But what is the module they say it does't come with. Do I need one to make this work? Where is it?
I would have recommend a 2G ALT as you truck has the matching plugs for it (1986) and it would have been easier to hook up. Do you have a amp meter in the instrument cluster? Does it work?
Yes I have one in the cluster and it does not work. I can't find the wires to hook it up. I find the ones off the alt and from the volt reg, it's a male/ female plug and the book says that is it. I can't find the wire and oposite plug to go into the dash. Go figure!
<O
</OThe Dist in the photo looks like the one I was going to recommend from AutoZone.
<O
</ONew, Cardone P/N 84-2669 $71.99, New - with cap/rotor and NO core charge
Yea that is the one. Thanks!!! But what is the module they say it does't come with. Do I need one to make this work? Where is it?
#37
01-05-2010, 05:15 PM
“But what is the module they say it doesn’t come with. Do I need one to make this work?”
The Distributor you currently have running in the truck is for an EEC IV ignition system, it has an IGN module bolted on the side of it that is controlled by the computer. So what they are saying is you can buy the EEC IV Dist with or without an IGN module bolted to it. This is not used in a Duraspark IGN system. The duraspark IGN module is shown in the photo I posted with the ignition harness.
Jim
The Distributor you currently have running in the truck is for an EEC IV ignition system, it has an IGN module bolted on the side of it that is controlled by the computer. So what they are saying is you can buy the EEC IV Dist with or without an IGN module bolted to it. This is not used in a Duraspark IGN system. The duraspark IGN module is shown in the photo I posted with the ignition harness.
Jim
#38
01-05-2010, 06:27 PM
Junior User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St Louis Mo
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
“But what is the module they say it doesn’t come with. Do I need one to make this work?”
The Distributor you currently have running in the truck is for an EEC IV ignition system, it has an IGN module bolted on the side of it that is controlled by the computer. So what they are saying is you can buy the EEC IV Dist with or without an IGN module bolted to it. This is not used in a Duraspark IGN system. The duraspark IGN module is shown in the photo I posted with the ignition harness.
Jim
The Distributor you currently have running in the truck is for an EEC IV ignition system, it has an IGN module bolted on the side of it that is controlled by the computer. So what they are saying is you can buy the EEC IV Dist with or without an IGN module bolted to it. This is not used in a Duraspark IGN system. The duraspark IGN module is shown in the photo I posted with the ignition harness.
Jim
Now I have something to do before the tranny mission when it gets a little warmer. Get the parts bought now, and wait for the warmer days.
#39
01-05-2010, 08:02 PM
Postmaster
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#40
01-05-2010, 08:32 PM
The photo I posted in post #4 was of an DS2 harness off an 4.9 1981 F150, this will plug into an 1986. I would check the voltage at the coil positive at idle to verify the resistor wire is dropping the voltage to the coil a little after you get it running.
<O
</OI would use the alternator off the 1986 as I believe it will be a G2. The 1986 truck will have the wiring harness (ALT plugs) to match a G2 alternator, or at least that what my 86 has. I think you want to stick with the 1986 ALT wiring so the AMP meter will work.
Jim
#41
01-05-2010, 08:45 PM
Junior User
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: St Louis Mo
Posts: 62
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
RLH, where you from in MO?
I live in St Louis. Do a lot of visiting in Llicking Mo though. Like a second home.
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999
Jim, I am putting a 81 6cyl into an 86 with all the components (water pump, alt, etc). Naturally, I want to go duraspark. Will it pretty much, just plug in?
I live in St Louis. Do a lot of visiting in Llicking Mo though. Like a second home.
99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999999
Jim, I am putting a 81 6cyl into an 86 with all the components (water pump, alt, etc). Naturally, I want to go duraspark. Will it pretty much, just plug in?
#42
01-05-2010, 09:01 PM
Postmaster
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#43
01-05-2010, 09:04 PM
Postmaster
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Lebanon
Posts: 3,856
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
#44
01-05-2010, 09:05 PM
