Notices

Distributor suggestions, 351M

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 6, 2009 | 08:49 AM
  #1  
Craigwell's Avatar
Craigwell
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 705
Likes: 2
From: Halifax, NS
Distributor suggestions, 351M

Wondering what distributor and timing curve I should look for with my 78 F150, with the 351M/C6/2.75 9" combo.

I removed all the smog gear, and the truck performs reasonably well, but it has issues with transition to power circuit, and some of this may be exacerbated by the curve not being quite what it needs. (emissions...)

Current carb: D7TE CVA C 8E 15
Dizzy: D7TE 12127 AMA 85 11

All I know, is if I'm cruising and go to 3/4 - WOT it can't take the fuel and sometimes backfires up the carb.

I've tinkered plenty with base timing, idle mixture, and accel pump rate.

I won't be surprised if I go with a reman carb and dizzy here, but I'm starting with the distributor and would appreciate any suggestions!! I'm interested in staying with stock DSII components, but am open to anything.

Thank you!
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2009 | 09:12 AM
  #2  
Craigwell's Avatar
Craigwell
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 705
Likes: 2
From: Halifax, NS
Other info:

Here's a thread when I purchased the truck:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...questions.html

The issues mentioned in the thread have been resolved, excepting what I noted in the original post here.

Idle screws still 3-4 turns out for best vacuum, max vacuum is about 19-20", but no vacuum leaks.

Fairly certain the distributor should be replaced. It was seized in it's bore when I bought the truck, and sometimes the performance of the truck changes as if the centrifugal mechanism has deteriorated.
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2009 | 09:49 AM
  #3  
Furyus1's Avatar
Furyus1
Postmaster
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 3,940
Likes: 8
From: Southern Oregon Coast
There was a thread not too long ago on the '73-'79 forum regarding what happens when EGR is removed. The general consensus seemed to be that the engine may have problems (such as pinging) due to the radical timing curve of the distributor and that the carb is tuned to run lean.

My truck (which has a 400) had the problem with pinging - the PO had removed the EGR but didn't do anything with the distributor or carb.

Following on a tip from this web site:
Duraspark_distributor_recurve_instructions_index

I replaced my distributor with one for a 460 (400 and 460 distributors are physically identical - I believe 351M's are also) - 460's of that era had EGR but the timing curve was different on the distributors - I couldn't find a recurve kit for it locally, so I dropped it in as-is and that, alone, took care of the pinging problem - engine runs fine. Carb is still running a bit lean though...

Hope this helps...
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2009 | 11:02 AM
  #4  
Craigwell's Avatar
Craigwell
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 705
Likes: 2
From: Halifax, NS
I think in my case, mine's only good for a core. I have recurved these before, with success - but I think I'm in the realm now of finding a unit with the curve I need. I'll read the link you posted for info concerning 460 curve... thanks
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2009 | 11:58 AM
  #5  
Craigwell's Avatar
Craigwell
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 705
Likes: 2
From: Halifax, NS
ahh yes, i've seen the 75 Elite reference before.

Well perhaps people have suggestions for a curve for this application with the following characteristics:

Truck is highway geared, so needs to maximize tourque. Highway RPM doesn't exceed 2500 rpm.

I don't carry much in it for loads, although it does see modest loads, and the occasional 1000 lbs.

Engine is stock, and will remain near to it.

I put a lot of miles on this, and it's mostly highway. The truck is eating fuel currently, getting about 12mpg no matter how i drive it. I know this engine should be good for at least 3 - 5 more mpg.

I don't have pinging issues. My issue is more a constantly rich condition, which is in part due to the carb (I will investigate jet sizes and power valve) and the timing curve not being optimal for the charge.

The engine is often in a lugging situation due to the gearing, and that makes it more critical for it to be able to handle the fuel properly under load.

Otherwise I like the gearing, and when this is working well, it holds 10" + of vacuum at 60mph, and is quite good on the highway. Tourque peak for the engine occurs at 60mph..
 
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2009 | 10:48 PM
  #6  
Craigwell's Avatar
Craigwell
Thread Starter
|
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 705
Likes: 2
From: Halifax, NS
I just ordered Pertronix I3 Flamethrower as seen here: Pertronix Flame-Thrower Ignitor III Billet Distributors - JEGS

We'll see how it works. Something tells me I will want to alter the curve from the "performance" one it comes with, but it is easily adjustable apparently.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
5280
1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
9
May 27, 2014 12:14 PM
SAY789
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
4
Mar 5, 2013 11:52 PM
PRIMERED79 SHORT BED
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
21
Jul 24, 2012 12:32 AM
BaronVonAutomatc
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
9
Jan 4, 2011 05:42 AM
Craigwell
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
10
Dec 6, 2009 09:15 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 AM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-3
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-5
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-7
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE