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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:11 PM
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even if i strip the front and rear axles off a 250 and the suspension of both put a load assist airbag system on the rear end put a brake controller and a 7 blade rv trailer electrical setup on it?
You would have to replace the entire brake system (booster, master cylinder, full front & rear axles including all brakes). Also a 4x4 F-250 is going to be leaf sprung and your truck is coil sprung so if you just swap the axles you have to cut & replace the crumple zone and mount the leaf spring hangers (requires welding/fab work). You are also going to need some trans upgrades like a bigger cooler and possibly a shift kit. And the frame on an F-250 is a lot stronger than an F-150 frame. You could box/reinforce yours but the best thing to do is replace the frame with an F-250 frame. The stress of towing that much weight will fatigue an F-150 frame and eventually cause it to fail, possibly in a spectacular and deadly way.

Or you could just start with the right truck and avoid all that work.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Last time i looked at a 92 f250 frame it was the same as mine and my frame has the holes in it where ford would have mounted the front leaf hangers with rivets but idk it could have been a f150 with a leaf spring front end 4wd setup i was looking at
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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The frames might look the same but trust me, they are different. No F-150 of this era came from the factory with a front leaf sprung anything.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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i did a little digging and not to disprove you but i had a ford service tech tell me that the frames on the f-150 and larger up till 1997 had the same frame. He said that the differences between an 92 f150 and a 92 f250 is the rear and front axles brake system and suspension system the towing package for both the 150 and 250 are identical and most of the time included a external transmission cooler in front of the radiator (which i have already) that ties into the cooler built into the radiator. Ford did this so that they all can go down the same assembly line and get different options (which is why i can use items off a 150 4x4 of the same year) also the front ends are rated for the same weight rating theoretically you can take the springs and shackles off a ttb 250 axle and replace it with the coil mounts ans shock mounts with a little fabrication
Also https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...250-frame.html
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ight=franklin2
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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even if i strip the front and rear axles off a 250 and the suspension of both put a load assist airbag system on the rear end put a brake controller and a 7 blade rv trailer electrical setup on it?
Stop for a second and think about what you just wrote there, you're going to be building an F250 anyway so whay not just start with one and avoid all that work? There were light duty f250's back in the day that was only slightly higher capacity than the F150 and this is probably what your friend was alluding to, but you need a HD truck to tow 10k safely so something built on a 1/2 ton frame is an accident waiting to happen. I guarantee you the f250HD and F350 trucks had much bigger frames than the LD trucks, my father had one and the frame C channel was a full 3" taller.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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sentimental reasons i love my truck enough to beef that bad boy up
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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will my body and drivetrain bolt onto a 250 or even a 350 frame?
 
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That's fine but it still doesn't make it safe to haul that much.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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will my body and drivetrain bolt onto a 250 or even a 350 frame?
Yes the bodies are identical on all F series trucks.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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i did a little digging and not to disprove you but i had a ford service tech tell me that the frames on the f-150 and larger up till 1997 had the same frame.
I'm sorry but the ford service tech is wrong in this case.

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That thread agrees with me.

I didn't have time to read the whole thread. But if someone said that the frames are the same between an F-150 and an F-250 are the same then they are wrong too.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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ok andy so i can take a rusty pos 250 or 350 body off the frame and put my body on that frame and put my engine and tranny in it that would work theoretically i am just not sure about the downtime of my baby lol i love driving my truck lol
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:09 PM
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ok andy so i can take a rusty pos 250 or 350 body off the frame and put my body on that frame and put my engine and tranny in it that would work theoretically i am just not sure about the downtime of my baby lol i love driving my truck lol
That would be easier! If you have an extended cab short bed then you will have to look at late 90's F-250s because they were the only ones configured that way. If you have an extended cab long bed then you should have a lot of frames to choose from. If you are willing to make a trip out west the junkyards are filled with solid, rust-free frames that you could probably have for close to scrap value.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:11 PM
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so what years for the ext cab short beds like 94-97?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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and with the ext cab long beds if i keep the bed can i mount the cab on there
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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and with the ext cab long beds if i keep the bed can i mount the cab on there
True but then you have to find a truck with the same color scheme and paint condition as yours.

I think you have the year range right.
 
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