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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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5th wheel towing?

i have a F250 4x4 short box (6' 6") diesel. i am looking at buying a titanium 29-34 5th wheel trailer gvwr=11,131lbs. my question is:- with the short box do i need an extension on the pin since the titaniums pin drops straight down? and is this with-in the weight limits for this truck??
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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With short box truck a standard hitch will work with a Titanium trailer, depending on what year truck and not knowing the pin weight I would guess that a F250 should handle that trailer.

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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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The trailer GVWR is well within the towing guide limits for the F-250 for '05.....it's rated at a maximum fifth wheel trailer GVWR of 15,400. Go to page 17 of the towing guide in the link below.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/...05_default.asp

I agree with Denny that it will work on most of the SB trucks. However, you might check if you're considering the extended pin box. Some of the RV manufacturers have voided warranties with the installation of aftermarket extended pin boxes. If you find you really need something, you might consider a slider hitch instead.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:24 PM
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Thanks Denny,
the truck is an 2005, the pin weight for the titanium is 1,823
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Thanks John,
Any help is good
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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What is your GVWR on that pickup? 8,800# 9,400# or 10,000#?

you might be pushing legal weight limits with 1,800# of pin

but the truck will have no problem
 
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The GVWR on them is 10k.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:46 PM
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"them" or "yours"

there were three options. it will be on the doorplate on the B-pillar
 
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Mine and his...2005 CC 4x4 6.0 PSD SB had 10K GVWR.

On Edit: I thought his was a crew cab but not sure now. It will be either 9,800 or 10,000 because it has to be either an SC or CC to have the shortbed. In the 6.0 trucks, those are the only two GVWRs for the shortbed 4x4.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Qwype
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You’ll be taking a BIG chance with that straight down pin.
THIS IS the voice of experience speaking.
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Was making a turn with our last 5<SUP>th</SUP> wheel, straight down pin (un-level ground) took out my window $300. (OUCH) if I remember correctly.
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Our currant 5<SUP>th</SUP> has an extended pin same turn it just brushes the cab, I WATCH very carefully!
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by albran
Qwype
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You’ll be taking a BIG chance with that straight down pin.
THIS IS the voice of experience speaking.
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Was making a turn with our last 5<sup>th</sup> wheel, straight down pin (un-level ground) took out my window $300. (OUCH) if I remember correctly.
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Our currant 5<sup>th</sup> has an extended pin same turn it just brushes the cab, I WATCH very carefully!
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ab
If you go to this site you will see that the Titanium is designed to be used on a short bed truck. About Glendale RV

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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If you go to this site you will see that the Titanium is designed to be used on a short bed truck. About Glendale RV

Denny
We looked at Titanium in 07 (kind of like this) but went with a NuWa. I need to update my avatar.

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"You’ll be taking a BIG chance with that straight down pin."

Kind of like that sales man saying
"yea you can pull it with a F150"
or
"yea it says right here it only weighs 12366lbs."


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Originally Posted by albran
We looked at Titanium in 07 (kind of like this) but went with a NuWa. I need to update my avatar.
ab
You didn't go with your choice, we are on our 4th HH We are full timing in this one

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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 04:14 PM
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you will see that the Titanium is designed to be used on a short bed truck
the link you gave does not say this, just that more of the trailer is forward of the pin, but you still need 4' or more between your pin and your cab...unless your trailer isn't 8' wide at the nose.

this, unfortunately, also means that backing up will be harder.
 
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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the link you gave does not say this, just that more of the trailer is forward of the pin, but you still need 4' or more between your pin and your cab...unless your trailer isn't 8' wide at the nose.
Not only does their website and promotional material NOT say that their 5er is meant to work with short bed trucks, their one diagram shows exactly the opposite.

Their diagram that purports to show a "15%" shorter tow length is deliberately misleading in that it shows the 'other' trailer with an extended pin; but more importantly it shows that as part of having more of the trailer forward of the pin, they no only use a "cab over" design they also have the main body of the trailer extending further forward of the pin compared to the 'other' trailer they choose to compare themselves to. Now the actual photos show that the part of the main body forward of the pin is just a pointed area towards the centerline apparently to look (and perhaps be) slightly more aerodynamic.

In any case, yes, you would need MORE THAN four feet between the front of the main body of the trailer and the back of the cab if you are going to back the trailer to a 90 degree angle with the truck. Of course there is nothing magical about such a 90 degree angle, many people back a 5er beyond 90 degrees and many people never will back it as tightly as 90 degrees. Backing any steep angle you certainly need to keep track of just how much clearance you have left.

And, by the way, it does require MORE THAN four feet clearance to clear a 96" wide 5er backing tightly because the actual distance from the pin to the CORNER of the trailer will be slightly MORE than 4' depending on how much of the trailer is forward of the pin.
 
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