EBPV Issue...I Think...
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EBPV Issue...I Think...
OK FTE family...not sure if i have a handle on my issue, but i think i do...
when its cold outside, which its getting to be, i am plugging in the engine block heater at night, i am also starting the truck @ 15 minutes before i have to leave...still, once i take off, i get a sound from under the hood like a whooshing, then a small "pop" and then i have power...this continues repeatedly until the truck temps rise to @ 1/4 guage...not sure actual temps, don't have an actual guage...lol...i have been brainstorming for a few days and can only conclude that the EBPV is closing until temps are up, which means its working...
Would the EBPV mod fix this issue??? I feel like i am wasting alot of fuel letting the truck sit for 15 mins, and then driving in a lower gear until the temps come up...i KNOW somebody here can tell me if this issue is the reason some guys perform the EBPV delete...
Thanks FTE guys...
when its cold outside, which its getting to be, i am plugging in the engine block heater at night, i am also starting the truck @ 15 minutes before i have to leave...still, once i take off, i get a sound from under the hood like a whooshing, then a small "pop" and then i have power...this continues repeatedly until the truck temps rise to @ 1/4 guage...not sure actual temps, don't have an actual guage...lol...i have been brainstorming for a few days and can only conclude that the EBPV is closing until temps are up, which means its working...
Would the EBPV mod fix this issue??? I feel like i am wasting alot of fuel letting the truck sit for 15 mins, and then driving in a lower gear until the temps come up...i KNOW somebody here can tell me if this issue is the reason some guys perform the EBPV delete...
Thanks FTE guys...
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Not sure about the pop noise. I don't have a lot of cold weather experience down here, and when I do my teeth are usually chattering so loud I can't hear the engine. 
I'd say you're wasting fuel letting it warm up for 15 minutes. If you're plugging it in, the most I would let it idle is maybe a minute before taking off. Just take it a bit easy until it warms up. Also, the EBPV closing is intended to aid in engine warm up. You'll get better fuel economy with a warm engine than you will driving for an extended period with a cold engine.
I'd say you're wasting fuel letting it warm up for 15 minutes. If you're plugging it in, the most I would let it idle is maybe a minute before taking off. Just take it a bit easy until it warms up. Also, the EBPV closing is intended to aid in engine warm up. You'll get better fuel economy with a warm engine than you will driving for an extended period with a cold engine.
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you can also unplug it, and get rid of the issue all together. i unplugged mine last fall an went the whole winter without it and had no issues, its still unplugged now an will be this winter.
do a search on the issue, you might like what you find out.
do a search on the issue, you might like what you find out.
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It sounds like it is doing what mine is doing. Which I believe is the EBPV sticking. I plan to rebuild mine, but mine leaks oil so I have to stop that problem, or I may have just unhooked it as many on here have done or go to a non EBPV pedestal.
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Well, that does kind of sound like the EBPV is sticking to me. You must be leaving pretty early in the morning, I wouldn't think it is cold enough in Hunstville for the EBPV to even be coming on yet (it isnt here in SC). Try unplugging it and see if that fixes the problem, then you at least know if thats whats causing it.
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Well, that does kind of sound like the EBPV is sticking to me. You must be leaving pretty early in the morning, I wouldn't think it is cold enough in Hunstville for the EBPV to even be coming on yet (it isnt here in SC). Try unplugging it and see if that fixes the problem, then you at least know if thats whats causing it.
OK, sounds like a plan...now...i have no clue how to "unplug" the EBPV...any help with that...???
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I'm not at a computer right now, using my blackberry. I will try to get you a picture of the plug this afternoon when I get back to my desk.
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Here is a pic: https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal....jpg=(Courtesy
You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page
You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page
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Thanks Bob....you know how we all like pictures....duh huh....lol...it's rainy and very windy here today...it's supposed to be sunny but cold tomorrow, so whenever i unplug the EBPV, it won't be today...as for the temps in Huntsville, you're right...it really hasn't been THAT cold...the problem seems to occur when the temps get below like 40 at night...it did get down to 24 Sunday night here...pretty freaking cold...I'm on top of a dang mountain, it seems to get a little colder, like 5 degrees, than the forecasted temps for Huntsville...in SC, you've got some wet and windy weather coming brother...the wind, it is a BLOWIN today....lol
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You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page[/quote]
Thanks for this link to Guzzle's site...I added every mod link from guzzle months ago...forgot about them until i saw this....lol...i'm a bit slow...
Thanks for this link to Guzzle's site...I added every mod link from guzzle months ago...forgot about them until i saw this....lol...i'm a bit slow...
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Here is a pic: https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal....jpg=(Courtesy
You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page
You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page
It is raining pretty good here today, I think the weather system that is affecting you is so large that it's already hitting us. I believe the EBPV will close on startup at temps below 40degrees, so that sounds about right for what you've been experiencing. Good luck, let us know if that doesn't work and we can try to troubleshoot further.
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The plug is pointed towards the front of the truck, almost right in the middle, at the back of the engine, kind of underneath and behind the Y-pipe.
I believe the EBPV will close on startup at temps below 40degrees, so that sounds about right for what you've been experiencing. Good luck, let us know if that doesn't work and we can try to troubleshoot further.
I believe the EBPV will close on startup at temps below 40degrees, so that sounds about right for what you've been experiencing. Good luck, let us know if that doesn't work and we can try to troubleshoot further.
Thanks Bob...it's so freaking wet and cold right now i have plenty of free time to mod....lol...the weather guy is calling for snow tomorrow, not much lawn care i can do...so, i will be gitting this done today...i'll let ya'll know if it fixes the issue...Thanks for your help...
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Well, that does kind of sound like the EBPV is sticking to me. You must be leaving pretty early in the morning, I wouldn't think it is cold enough in Hunstville for the EBPV to even be coming on yet (it isnt here in SC). Try unplugging it and see if that fixes the problem, then you at least know if thats whats causing it.
Here is a pic: https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal....jpg=(Courtesy
You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page
You can also unplug the sensor and it will disable the system: Welcome to guzzle's Exhaust Backpressure Sensor Cleaning Maintenance Web Page
That first pic is the one I was going to send you. The plug is pointed towards the front of the truck, almost right in the middle, at the back of the engine, kind of underneath and behind the Y-pipe.
It is raining pretty good here today, I think the weather system that is affecting you is so large that it's already hitting us. I believe the EBPV will close on startup at temps below 40degrees, so that sounds about right for what you've been experiencing. Good luck, let us know if that doesn't work and we can try to troubleshoot further.
It is raining pretty good here today, I think the weather system that is affecting you is so large that it's already hitting us. I believe the EBPV will close on startup at temps below 40degrees, so that sounds about right for what you've been experiencing. Good luck, let us know if that doesn't work and we can try to troubleshoot further.
Guys...great info...i disconnected the sensor, and guess what...Bit Mo' is running strong and the issue seems to have gone away...now, i am gonna try to find an inexpensive non-EBPV pedestal for my rig...i understand that everything was working properly, but, just like the gasser "heat risers" from yesteryear...the EBPV is kindof a pain in the a$$...i do want to ask a somewhat dumb question...does the "flap" in the EBPV corrode as did the heat risers?? And if so, are they as irreplaceable as they were??
Anyway, as for this post, problem corrected...once again, my extended family has come through in the clutch...this site has turned out to be my best friend...
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Guys...great info...i disconnected the sensor, and guess what...Bit Mo' is running strong and the issue seems to have gone away...now, i am gonna try to find an inexpensive non-EBPV pedestal for my rig...i understand that everything was working properly, but, just like the gasser "heat risers" from yesteryear...the EBPV is kindof a pain in the a$$...i do want to ask a somewhat dumb question...does the "flap" in the EBPV corrode as did the heat risers?? And if so, are they as irreplaceable as they were??
Anyway, as for this post, problem corrected...once again, my extended family has come through in the clutch...this site has turned out to be my best friend...
Anyway, as for this post, problem corrected...once again, my extended family has come through in the clutch...this site has turned out to be my best friend...
To replace the "flapper" you would have to replace the exhaust outlet but if you are looking to get a non-EBPV pedestal, you can also get the outlet without the "flapper" or simply drill it out and plug the holes with small freeze plugs.