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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:24 PM
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Cold starts in ohio

Hey guys My 250 running not so good. Im trying to get it up to par before the plow goes on.
When it runs ,and warmed up it usally runs good.
Well it has 150,000 on it. In the summer it was timed, but since then I got a new egr and map senson...So Im thinking it maby can be re timed. I belive Im still running 10w 40 from the summer It prolly only has 500 miles on it. I new O2 sensor ,and front fuel pump wouldent hurt, Im going to get on that soon. The rear pump and rear tanks new.

My main problem is those cold starts. Some times I spray starting fluied in it ,and it usally starts up, but I feel like im doing that to much.
I was serching some oil theads,but all that did was confuse me because everyone was fighting over what to run in the winter lol.

I have new plugs (autolights) wires cap battery a big durlast one..alt new.
Sorry bout the book just trying to give as much info as I could...Any cold start help would be wonderfull. Thanks!
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Old Nov 30, 2009 | 11:59 PM
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what engine do you have?

my 300 had a starting problem in the cold,

turns out the fuel pump relay would not activate in the cold till it got some heat in it

listen carefully during the next cold start if the MAIN fuel pump comes on
also you may be able to feel it in the floor

if there's any question the premium brand at oreilly's is only like $12
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Ah my bad. 302 and its an 88. When you put your new one in did it change the problem. See I think it has more to do with timeing ,and that front pump. I check the relay in the am.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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do not, i repeat do not start your engine on starting fluid. Under no circumstance does that engine need those unless there is a problem with it. More diagnoses of what the engine starts/perfomes like on these forums will help.

My suggestion is to fix the actual problem before it gets real cold .
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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Thanks...Well when it runs it runs the best at 35 40. When I hit 25 it shakes pertty bad. I dont think its the u joints. I have new ones to put in anyways (20 years old). So what would that starting fluied would made worse?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 12:55 AM
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the thinner the oil is during colder temps the better. Run a 5w-30 in winter and it will help, especially for those that are impatient to get on the road.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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Alright, I usally let it warm up a bit before I take off. 5w 30 will hold up good plowing?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:34 AM
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yes, it does hold up well towing. Once the oil is warm in the block what does it matter? The engine should be the same temp summer or winter right. Given a properly working thermostat, and a diff in temp from oil in the bottom and cylinder heads, but yes once an engine is up to temp it shouldn't matter and lighter oil will warm up faster.
 
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May be a bad Engine Coolant Temperature sensor but the first thing I would do is see if there are any trouble codes. If you don`t have a code reader go to fordfuelinjection.com and from the list on the right, click on "self test" for instructions on pulling codes.
Might also want to fit a new fuel filter.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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could you explain exactly what is happening?
is it shuddering, or will it just keep cranking for awhile?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 08:41 AM
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you have two fuel pumps in that year.

one may be faulty.

check pressure.

check connection on external pump.

fuel filter?
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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I wouldn't turn my nose up at a larger CCA/newer/sturdier battery idea, either. Police all the connections, esp. when you're gonna run a plow system. My '75 F-100 had a dual tractor-trailer batt set-up with the driver's side on a relay. Truck running=batt charging. Truck off= no discharge. When I need the extra juice, hit the switch. Talk about piece of mind. Am looking to do that on my '96 for the winter...(no plow, tho)

Just my .02...
 
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Originally Posted by BURNSTOUGHFORD
the thinner the oil is during colder temps the better. Run a 5w-30 in winter and it will help, especially for those that are impatient to get on the road.
BUT- if 10w is what's recommended for the engine, run that. Run 10w-30 instead of 40 if you want a lighter oil- especially if you're going to be plowing snow. You may get away with 5w in a 10w engine for a while, but the long term effects will be brutal. There's a reason a specific oil type is recommended for the engine, and it's because that's what Ford designed the motor for.

By the way, whereabouts in Iowa are you from, BURNSTOUGHFORD? I live in the Des Moines area.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Yeah it cranks real nice lol (thats silly to say) But a real strong turn over...Just doesnt kick on....The batterys brand new 1000 cold cranking amps. I got a 3 year warrenty.
Im going to change the pump on the frame and filter and see if that helps. I think that front pump is pertty weak. Then ill try the sensors and see that helps thanks!

Oh the filter was changed not to long ago, but it prolly wouldent hurt!
 
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 02:20 PM
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my 4.9 always starts in ohio with no starter fluid.

no matter how cold or how long it sits.

the filter is probably ok if not that old but i would replace the frame pump.
 
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