Hello all,

I'm sure your all familiar w/ the bash on '03 and '04 6 liter's, I realy did want a 7.3 but am looking at a '04 6.0, Do I have any thing to fear from this motor? Any help Thanks!

FTrucker

 

Have ford run an oasis,some are trouble some are trouble free.It is a great motor when it is on song.

 

Thanks Brickie,

Not sure what an Oasis is, But this truck has 120 K on it, I'd imagine it's probably free of initial prob's. What kind of Gas mileage can I get from a '04 250 6.0? Also are mod's a safe bet to bring it up. A guy told me about the Bulldog to set for economy, which may help me I thought cause I go 400 miles one way, often. Thanks.

FTrucker

 

Mine got 17+ avg MPGs w/3.73s before the lift.

I wouldn't trust any 6.0 with the EGR cooler still in place, but that's just me. Once that's addressed drive it like you stole it.

 

An OASIS report is a report you can get from your Ford dealer that lists all of the service and warranty work done at the dealership. If it's minimal than you have a better idea that the truck isn't full of bugs. As long as you do your preventative maintenance, the 6.0 can be worry free.

 

Ford has a log of all warranty work performed on its vehicles it is called Oasis.Skip the bully dog it is hard on the tranny and cylinder pressures.The SCT custom tuned or Spartan Phalanx are two of the best to use on the 6.0 IMHO,both adjust the line pressures for the tranny and accomodate for non studded engines.Milage varries by truck and user I avg about 17 in the 350 and about 14 in the Ex, different trucks with different jobs= different milage.

 

I get up to 17 mpg with no upgrades what so ever, all factory. I have had exactly two problems with my truck, starter and altanator. starter was messed up because of the previous owner trying to use it as a power supply for some add on, and he broke one of the connectors. as far as mileage, I'm still looking for good quality upgrades for economy.

 

Thanks all!

Brickie, are ya a Brickie? I'm a tuckpointer here in Chi' we do all the Masonry restoration/ Caulking on the buildings here.

 

Yep, 25 years now.I use to do carving for stone restoration,great job very rewarding but the dust chased me away.I try and stick to brick, block and stone laying now days.It has been a great trade to me.

 

Sorry for jackin your thread here but i gotta question.

I hear all this talk about the EGR on these trucks and how alota people get EGR delete kits, but can someone explain exactly what it is/why u want it gone? Exhaust Gas Recirculator? Is that what that stands for? Now what about the EGR cooler?
I'm looking at an exhaust and tuner for my truck in the near future, so i would like to know everything i need to know in order to do those kinds of mods. By the way my truck is an 07.

 

Gosh, guess that means I'm sitting on a lemon then...the EGR is still in place on my truck. Yes, the EGR and head bolts are two trouble makers for the 6.0L. But I feel it's worth pointing out on the later...unless you have a serous failure in the cooling system, or running a hot tune. Your more than likely not going to lift the heads on the engine. With that said, I've started buying parts over the last couple of days to take the EGR out of the equations on my truck. Some states that may not be a wise idea (CA & parts of TX come to mind).

Fuel mileage the OP asks about...here are some numbers on my truck....



Yes, my mileage is all over the place...but I use my truck for all kinds of different things. Road trips with just luggage in the bed; towing the camper; pulling a trailer loaded with equipment; terrorizing ricers or running around town. All of that effects the mileages on these trucks. Just remember...as many horror stories you may have heard about the 6.o (six-oh, 6-leaker, and so on) they're no where nears as bad as the 6.4 that replaced it. I've yet to come across someone that truly loves their 6.4L.

Yes, EGR stands for Exhaust Gas Recirculater. I understand why International put it on the motors...so the engiens could pass the EPA mandates back in 2003. But the system has a couple of flaws. The reason allot of guys/gals are taking them off the trucks is because of EGR cooler failures (which can lead to head gasket failures), and to increase mileage (the later is minimal). If I can do something to my engine/truck to help it live longer...I'm going to do it. These engines are $8k to $14k for a new replacement (depends on short or long blocks...or complete engines). And have you looked at the price of a Super Duty lately??? I've got 65k on mine...if Bill Hewitt got 798K out of "spot"...I figure I'm good for at least 600k before I need to start thinking about overhaul/replacement.

 

I don't know if the design of the EGR system is really as bad as people make it out to be. I think it's because of the EGR system you can't drive a diesel like people were used to. You can't idle as much, you have to get on the pedal every now and again(when the truck is warmed up) to help clear everything out. Combine that with a VGT style turbo, you do have issues, but I do believe a lot of those issues were with people not really knowing or using their trucks for what they were meant to be used for. You also have to remember that during the 6.0 run, those years were the years were people were getting alot of things that they wanted(not really needed) and you had a lot of people that had no experience or knowledge of diesels in particular. Not everything is owner error, but I'm willing to bet that there was more then it's usual share in the mix for the 6.0.

You can have a reliable truck with a working EGR system, you just have to compensate for that system and remember that it's there.

 

You also have to note that a good % of egr cooler failures are due to the oil cooler plugging up and causing the egr cooler to overheat. Coolant filters are a great deterrent for this part of the equation.

 

What? Are you serious? Tons of guys love their 6.4's, my dad included. Its just that thing with new technology, now people are saying get the 6.0 before the 6.4, just like they used to say, do not get a 6.0, stick with the 7.3! Next it will be buy a used 6.4 before touching a 6.7. Makes me laugh

 

I have to agree with tex. Alot of 6.0s and other diesels went from your blue collar workers to your white collar workers. When you buy a diesel it is meant to be worked. That is why semi trucks use diesel engines to pull heavy weights without the fear of running hot and messing up an engine. Tractors construction equipment and any other heavy duty equip. use diesel engines to take the abuse of running full throttle all day long at lower rpms than a gas engine would to produce the same torque. So when you have somebody take a diesel truck and drive it 4 miles a day to the office and back plus put a programmer on it the engine will give lots of problems. Because they were not loading the engine down like it should be. Treat a diesel engine bad and USUALLY it will treat you good.