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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 04:36 PM
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another starting question

I installed new injectors, a return line kit, and had to replace the line from the ip to the #1 cylinder. Now it won't start. I removed my shrader valve and there's plenty of fuel. I cracked open all my fuel lines to help bleed them. I've got fuel at all the caps.

It will turn over and spit and sputter while the starter is running. Once I let go of the key, it quits. I'm lost! I did not have the new injectors checked. should I?

I need to get this running to sell. I found an '94 4x4 w/x-cab. And I have a buyer for my '89 dually.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 04:51 PM
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did you test the GP's?
and you say "now" it wont start.so it did start prior to injector swap correct?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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I did not check the gp's. I figure they are shot. They've never worked since I've owned it. I planed on replacing them but not now. The truck started before all this and ran fine. But it took some cranking. I think there was a leak.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 05:18 PM
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Engine rpm by starter must be faster than you can count them. Use the block heater for an hour....... If you want the GP controller test PM me your email addy.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 08:45 PM
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With the cooler temps, the engine will be harder to start.

Diesel fuel needs about 500 degrees to auto ignite.

Going from the outside air temp to 500 degrees in one compression stroke is asking a lot from your starter and engine.

If you have been doing extended cranking to get it started without glow plugs, I am going to say your starter has been overheated and needs to be replaced.

20 seconds max cranking time, 2 minutes minimum cool down time before cranking again or you cook the starter.

Glow plugs make the starter last longer.

24 degrees the other morning, glow plugs cycle 10 seconds, 2 seconds on the starter and the engine was running.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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so you think I need to replace the glow plugs? If I can get the engine warm it should start easier?
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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By all means get the motor as warm as you can. The warmer the motor the easier the start. I'd plug in the block heater for an hour or two and see what she does then.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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so you think I need to replace the glow plugs? If I can get the engine warm it should start easier?
just having one bad glow plug makes a WORLD of difference.

this thread,though kinda lengthy(sorry) should be able to help you some:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...old-start.html
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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I'm dreading doing the glowplugs. After all the stuff I've read on here. I'm sure I'll be the one that has to remove his heads to replace the glowplugs. I know it's time to do it. But, I don't wanna.
 
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Old Nov 20, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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Should be fine as long is theirs Beru/Motorcraft plugs in there. Just take it easy when you try to pull the plug out. If theirs resistance, dont just yank on it. Spray some lube in there and twist it back and forth with some pliers and slowly work it out. I believe that this method has worked for other members before. Hopefully it'll come out without too much trouble.
 
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