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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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I drove my 86 f150 to the store to get a $2 rubber mallet. When I came back out I turned the key, got one click and there was no power to anything.
I unhooked the cables, just to see, put them back on and I had lights inside the cab again. Turned the key, one click and no power to anything again.

Thinking it might be a bad solenoid I changed it out and same story.

I pulled the starter to bench test it but since it has a fender mounted solenoid and that fender just happens to be 7.5 miles from where I am I don't think I can bench test it. Or can I? Any testing suggestions? Also how would I go about checking my fusible links?
 
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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You could hook up the starter directly to a battery source using jumper cables. Sure, sparks
will fly, but you'll be able to see if it works.

Tug firmly on both sides of the wires containing fusible links; if they've melted, the wire will
pull apart fairly easily.

I would first check your battery cables and all connections, especially the grounds.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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What do I hook the cables to in order to test it? There's only one terminal on the starter.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:43 AM
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As basic as it may sound, the first thing I would do is tighten up the battery cables as much as possible. That sounds exactly like what my truck does when I don't have the cable tightened all the way.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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This sound exactly like dirty battery terminals. It has happened to me a couple of times over the years. Clean both terminals and posts, then reconnect. I bet it will solve your problem.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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The negative goes to the ear on the case of the starter and the positive goes to the stud on the back of the starter.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:48 PM
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Update.

I replaced the starter and the solenoid and the ignition switch(the one on the column with the actuator). No change. I think I have a ground or something simple to find. I know nothing about electricity though.

When I put the battery cables on the battery the dome light in the cab comes on. If I turn the key or even pull the headlight switch on all power dies. If I take the battery cables off and replace them the dome light is on again. This is so frustrating because I know it's something easy.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Are you able to just twist and lift the battery cable off or do you have to get out the tools and loosen the terminal connectors on the battery?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:19 PM
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The battery cables are nice and tight and shiny. My 1/2" wrench is getting good use loosening and tightening them.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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Cool, that is a good thing. You were asking the best way to test fusible links. grab each one on either side and tug gently pulling away from the link area. If you see any stretching of the link, it will need to be replaced. Another thing to check would be any place that the battery cables connect to the body or frame or even the starter. Take a piece of 80 grit sand paper and sand it down to bare metal to make sure that it is making a clean connection.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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Sounds like your battery has a bad cell in it. Try another battery and see what happens.

I had this happen several times, with light electrical loads(dome light,clock/radio ect) everything will look good, but when you need current from the battery(starting), it won't give much out hence the totaly dead effect.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Eddiec1564
Sounds like your battery has a bad cell in it. Try another battery and see what happens.

I had this happen several times, with light electrical loads(dome light,clock/radio ect) everything will look good, but when you need current from the battery(starting), it won't give much out hence the totaly dead effect.
+1 Always start with the battery, and maybe you have and just didn't mention it...
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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Did you already replace the actuator in addition to the ignition switch? Is the switch positioned correctly on the column?

You can use a screwdriver to run the switch through all its positions, up to and including start.

I don't *think* there are many differences between your truck and my '90, but I had a similar problem with a broken actuator that wouldn't push the switch enough AND a blown fusible link. Same deal, dome light, nothing else.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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It's either your battery or the connections going to it. Keep eliminating possible causes until you are left with only one cause, then fix it.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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If your battery terminals are clean and tight,

you may have too much resistance in the battery cables themselves.

You may have to replace the cables.


Had that problem with a 69 Firebird.

New cables,

problem solved.

Dan.
 
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