Travis, which two bolts are hard to get to? I would be willing to use a dremel on the floor as well.

So you don't have any issues shifting? Do you move your arm much?

Heck, I will put mine in tomorrow and stop asking so many questions. Then I will have the answers.

 

Found time early Saturday morning before my trip to get it installed before I left on my trip. Went in like a dream. Took me exactly 2 hours. I took more time cleaning the old parts than I should have and I had to make a new gasket for the very top plate, as I had torn the other when removing.
I really like this thing! Believe it or not, my shift timing has been off just a little bit all the 5 years I have owned the truck, in part due to the travel distance of the shifter. With this shorter throw, I am nailing shifts consistently; accelerating throughout the gears rather than kinda bogging at each gear change as before. I tired to retrain myself to accommodate the longer throw since I bought the truck, but just was always a little off with the clutch release/accelerator pedal synchronization.
You can feel the effects of the longer "short end" of the shifter as it takes a little more effort to pop out of one gear and go to the next. I am betting that shaving the aluminum backing disc for the detente would reduce that shift effort by letting the detente sit a little deeper in it's hole, thus reducing the pressure of the ball on the rails inside the box. I doubt I'll have the energy to disassemble the thing and use trial and error to try to reduce the shifting effort, though. My luck, I'd set the detente too deep and the durn thing would keep popping out of gear.
But, the advantage you get with the MUCH shorter shifter movement is clearly noticeable and, IMP, is a great improvement over the OEM setup.

 

I posted which ones were troublesome in my guide.
Travis did a good thing and just dremeled them out.
I would have had to cut a lot on mine to get that to work.



I wouldn't do that.
The detent has no influence on how hard the shifts are.
If you saw in my pictures, the spacer keeps the detent exactly the same.

All the detent does is center the shifter and keep it in gear.
Modifying it too be lighter might let it pop out of gear.

It takes physical force to push it into gear.
Thats why the shifter is a lever, so you make the one end longer, you increase the force to push it into gear.
Simple as that.
It does not increase effort that bad.
It gets better after a few days when you get used to it as well.

 

Well I just installed the kit. It went in real easy. Thank you for the write-up again William. It was greatly appreciated.

I took it for a test drive. I see that it requires a little more effort to shift, but I really like the shorter distance.

I followed Travis's example and used my rotary file to allow clearence around three of the bolts. I could not imagine using a wrench. LOL

I would just say that I recommend this for everyone. It is not necessarily a performance mod that makes more power , but it sure is easy on the arm. LOL

 

mine is a performance mod!!!! haha. hoping to see the 1/4 mile difference before long, but today i was getting into it to get across traffic. it started spinning when the turbo lit so i shifted it to 3rd real quick and got in it again and what do ya know. the dang thing kept spinning in 3rd gear til 50mph!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i have never done that in this truck before in that spot. i thought at first the clutch was slipping then i looked at my speedometer and it was reading 60mph so i knew it was tire spin. hahaha. gotta get some vids now of some standing burnouts!!!!!!!!! thats going to have to wait for the weekend...

 

I'll tell ya guys, I put a socket right on all of the bolt heads to remove the original plate and to reinstall the longer bolts. Only one gave me a little bit of trouble. That would be the lowest passenger side bolt-at about 5 o'clock if we think of the plate as a watch face. But once I got it started with my fingers and used a wrench to turn it in about 5-6 turns I ratcheted it the rest of the way down.
I guess shifted engine and tranny mounts might account for the difference in difficulty level some are having getting to some of these bolts. But mine really weren't any trouble at all.
The more I drive it, the more I like it, that is one thing for sure. Thanks, Clay, for getting us a great deal on this quality piece of merchandise!

 

Oh yea, a big ROUND OF APPLAUSE for Clay. This is indeed awesome.

Ckal, I could get a short socket on all but one to get it out but the added height of the kit would not allow me to use a socket. So I just massaged the floor a little to allow for the socket to fit. LOL

I may very well have motor mount or tranny mount issues which would account for this. After all it does have 227,000 miles on it. LOL

 

Travis, I am looking forward to seeing the videos. If I put some oil in front of my back tires I am sure I could make some awesome standing still videos too.

 

How much shorter does it make the throws?

 

They claim a 38% reduction in throw.

 

I would venture to say 50% less shifting throw. I just know that it is noticable.

 

38% is pretty good. hopefully Neal gets us some numbers to make sure.. this is a HUGE difference!!!

REALLY????????? I'm sorry, but you really think a V10 will out pull a 400hp PSD? hahaha. by out pull i mean hook a 15k lb load up behind and take off. i would take that challenge.. LoL.

 

Well, not yours.
It will out pull a stock one.

EDIT, I just saw you are in Austin, I am in Georgetown!
If it was close to stock so it was a fair comparison we would have to try it.

50% sounds pretty good, how much does it cost?

 

Travis, Bill is talking about a STOCK psd. Here is the link to the thread with over 2600 posts to his claim. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...10-vs-psd.html

When I posted in that thread, I was thinking about you and Neal and Cody, but he won't pull against a modified truck, only a stock truck.

 

I will get some numbers as far as throw. I forgot about getting this. Willie asked me earlier but with some of his strange posts I was distracted and forgot. I am getting old you know.



I would probably pull my stock (when it was) truck against a V-10 but I would ask that both vehicles were able to upgrade the exhaust and air filter. Especially pulling in the hills and mountains...But then again I probably don't need to start that conversation here. Sorry forget I just said that...