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Nov 6, 2009 | 04:20 PM

BigRed1967

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Hi folks, my understanding is that the 1977 Ford F250 (Camper Special) 2WD 460ci, automatic trans has a 9" rear end in it, someone please correct me if I am wrong; I was told this is the case and the gear set to put in is 3:50, I just need to know if 9" is correct?

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Nov 6, 2009 | 04:38 PM

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Post your VIN and Ident information and we can verify this for you without a problem.

Nov 6, 2009 | 04:42 PM

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9'' is only found in a 1/2 ton.

Nov 6, 2009 | 10:40 PM

Riderman

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Should be a Dana 60. Does your rear wheel axle have bolts that you can see?

By that I mean, looking at the rear wheel, with out any hubcap on the rim, look at the middle of the tire/rim. Is there bolts on a pertruding hunk of metal? (mayby I'm over simplifying it)

Nov 7, 2009 | 02:26 AM

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Count your lug nuts. 5 lugs and its a 9" or Dana 44, 8 lugs and its something bigger. My guess is a Dana 70, being a F-250 camper special. Also a 9" doesn't have a removable rear cover, all the guts come out the front. Dana's come out the backside. If its a Dana 60 or 70, they will both have 10 bolts holding the same rear cover on, but the 70 housing will have a lil extra cast iron around the outside of the cover, where as the Dana 60 housing will be close to flush with the outside diamiter of the cover. (I think around the bottom) I learned that on this forum somewhere but forget who said it. As for gears, they are probably 410's being in a truck like that. Only the half tons had 9"s and 350 gears so far as I can recolect. But anything is possible nowadays with the old age of these trucks- you never know what the last guy did to it.

Nov 7, 2009 | 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarkline

Awsome write up. I didnt know D70's came with these trucks. What years? I'd like one.

Rider

Nov 7, 2009 | 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Riderman

Awsome write up. I didnt know D70's came with these trucks. What years? I'd like one.

Rider

To be honest I'm not sure on the years, I was told mine came from a '76 or a '77- like described here. Apparently the Super cab camper specials were single wheel D 70s and the standard cab c/s were all dualys? I found this out the hard way when ordering new brake drums. Aparently they are hard to find in the single wheel versions too. I guess I got lucky with mine. I wanted to be able to do burnouts on 42"s and a 9" wasn't gonna take all that

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Nov 7, 2009 | 01:07 PM

NumberDummy

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Rear Axles.

Ford 9 inch: 1957/83 F100 // 1975/86 F150.

Dana 44: 1951/56 F100 // 1961/68 F100 // 1977/79 F100/150.

Dana 60: 1953/85 F250 / 1979 F350 4WD.

Dana 60.2 & 60.3: 1961/72 F100. The same F100 5 lug, 5.50" bolt pattern wheels were used with these two rear axles.

Dana 70: 1967/85 F350.

No 9" or Dana 70 rear axles were factory installed in F250's.

No F250's were factory installed with dual rear wheels (DRW).

The first year Ford offered a "pickup" with DRW was 1980, F350 Stylesides only.

All DRW F350's prior to 1980 were only available as a Cab & Chassis, or with a factory installed Platform & Rack (Stake Bed) or Platform (Flat Bed).

Ford never offered a DRW Camper Special for any year.

Nov 7, 2009 | 11:32 PM

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Does the earlier D70's have the narrow leaf spring mounts to fit a 76 F250 4x4?

Nov 7, 2009 | 11:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hotroddually

the standard cab c/s were all daulys?-

NO false info. Ford never made a dually pick up until 1980...the 80 f350 dually pick up has a drw dana 70. (apples to oranges though,totally different trucks by comparison.)

Yeah I wasn't sure on that one thats why I had a ? mark following it in my last post. The parts stores, even Jeffs bronco graveyard asks you which cab style camper special it was. I didn't know so I ordered the ones for a reg cab and they sent me really strange looking drums- like what a dually would have, and thats what they told me over the phone. Then orderd the supercab drums and they were correct.

Go with whatever #dummy said, he knows this better than us haha

Nov 8, 2009 | 12:51 AM

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Does the earlier D70's have the narrow leaf spring mounts to fit a 76 F250 4x4?

Yes they do! The 1973-1979 F-350 Super Camper Specials have the "narrow" frame width-same as cab and chassis frames. The D70 used in these trucks is actually a dually rear end with single rear wheels on it.If you look underneath one you will see the drums are offset towards the center of the truck.I took a D70 out of a 1974 F-350 SCS and bolted it into a 1975 F-250 4x4.You need to use the u-bolt plates from the D70 because the axle tube diameter is larger...

Nov 8, 2009 | 12:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ford6.02005

This Is AWSOME info! I want one..

I wonder how many that I have seen through the years that I did not recognize. How does one tell the difference between a earlier D60 and D70 by exterier looks?

Nov 8, 2009 | 01:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riderman

This Is AWSOME info! I want one..

I wonder how many that I have seen through the years that I did not recognize. How does one tell the difference between a earlier D60 and D70 by exterier looks?

D60: has "60" cast into webbing on passenger side,1/2" wheel studs.D70: has "70" cast into webbing on passenger side,9/16" wheel studs.Look for Dana BOM# on tag or stamped into rear side of axle tubes to be positive!

Nov 8, 2009 | 06:35 AM

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F350 Regular Cab Rear Drums

D1TZ1126D .. Rear Brake Drum

Fits: 1969/78 & 1979 F350 before 9/18/78.
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D8TZ1113A .. Hub & Drum Assy-Right

D8TZ1114A .. Hub & Drum Assy-Left

Fits: 1979 F350 from 9/18/1978.
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F350 Super Cab Rear Drums

D8TZ1113C .. Hub & Drum Assy-Right

D8TZ1114B .. Hub & Drum Assy-Left

Fits: 1974/79 F350 Super Cab.