SAS on 95 PSD
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SAS on 95 PSD
so i was told it would be better to put in a front solid axle dana 60 on my new 95 psd f250 xl if i wanted to lift it 4 inches. so my questions are what years and types of trucks can i take one from? how long does it take? and what is the procedure? just filll me in on everything you know that would be great thanks.
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my first question is why do you want a dana 60 over the independent front end???? the 50 is much nicer on the road and when set up right wont wear the tires and really does well offroad.
if i cant change your mind then any dana 60 out of a single wheeled ford truck will work. the older ones are kingpin and the newer ones are balljoints. if it were me i would get the balljoint style which would be mid 80's up to 97. also, the price you will spend on just the dana 60 and associated hardware to install it is more then a lift kit and front end rebuild for your current set up.........
the dana 50 is a good strong axle and you can get posi's for them and i thik lockers now too. lift kits are all over the place for them and really perform great. here is my setup on the dana 50.(note the tire wear--->perfect)
if i cant change your mind then any dana 60 out of a single wheeled ford truck will work. the older ones are kingpin and the newer ones are balljoints. if it were me i would get the balljoint style which would be mid 80's up to 97. also, the price you will spend on just the dana 60 and associated hardware to install it is more then a lift kit and front end rebuild for your current set up.........
the dana 50 is a good strong axle and you can get posi's for them and i thik lockers now too. lift kits are all over the place for them and really perform great. here is my setup on the dana 50.(note the tire wear--->perfect)
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my first question is why do you want a dana 60 over the independent front end???? the 50 is much nicer on the road and when set up right wont wear the tires and really does well offroad.
if i cant change your mind then any dana 60 out of a single wheeled ford truck will work. the older ones are kingpin and the newer ones are balljoints. if it were me i would get the balljoint style which would be mid 80's up to 97. also, the price you will spend on just the dana 60 and associated hardware to install it is more then a lift kit and front end rebuild for your current set up.........
the dana 50 is a good strong axle and you can get posi's for them and i thik lockers now too. lift kits are all over the place for them and really perform great. here is my setup on the dana 50.(note the tire wear--->perfect)
if i cant change your mind then any dana 60 out of a single wheeled ford truck will work. the older ones are kingpin and the newer ones are balljoints. if it were me i would get the balljoint style which would be mid 80's up to 97. also, the price you will spend on just the dana 60 and associated hardware to install it is more then a lift kit and front end rebuild for your current set up.........
the dana 50 is a good strong axle and you can get posi's for them and i thik lockers now too. lift kits are all over the place for them and really perform great. here is my setup on the dana 50.(note the tire wear--->perfect)
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most people dont like it because it has got a bad reputation for eating front tires. the potential is there for tis to happen but as long as your bushings are not wore out and your alignment is set correctly (not just "in the green") then you will be very pleased with it. like i said, i have 6 inches of lift on my truck with no issues. i would also reccomend that if you are lifting the truck then go with a 6inch instead of a 4 inch. its virtually the same price and the springs are better on the 6 inch kit and you can get the heavy duty axle pivot drop bracket---> 2 must have's for the diesel trucks.
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thanks, i took those pics a while back when this sort of topic came up before. people saying the dana 50 is junk and you cant go offroad with the independent front end. for the twisted up pic the truck is actually only in 2wd! i kept 3 tires on flat ground and rode the right front up as high as it would go in 2wd before the rear axle opened up. i could have gone farther but not in 2wd.
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most people dont like it because it has got a bad reputation for eating front tires. the potential is there for tis to happen but as long as your bushings are not wore out and your alignment is set correctly (not just "in the green") then you will be very pleased with it. like i said, i have 6 inches of lift on my truck with no issues. i would also reccomend that if you are lifting the truck then go with a 6inch instead of a 4 inch. its virtually the same price and the springs are better on the 6 inch kit and you can get the heavy duty axle pivot drop bracket---> 2 must have's for the diesel trucks.
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joe how did you get your front end to not bow down and point the tires down? when i did my springs, i had an extra leaf thrown in there as well as the stock spacers below the center bolt and it was to high and the middle of that dang axel split and bowed so much it pointed the tires down so much that it looked so terrible i parked the truck and ripped out the springs and fixed it that day.
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young ford, yes that is the skyjacker kit, springs frotn and rear, not blocks out back. i got the heavy duty kit. the difference is in the axle drop bracket. mine is the large one peice reinforced unit and the light duty is 2 peices that are prone to flexing and cracking. i have installed many lift ktis, they are not hard, just takes a little time. airtools and lifts make it much easier. when you think about it there's only a 2 inch difference.
riderace- what kit did you buy? that makes a big difference in the quailty. skyjacker did their homework, its a badass setup. my axle's ride level and i can use the standard balljoint bushings for alignments. no crazy offsets to get it in spec. i just replaced my front spring bushings so i need to get it aligned. when i do i will post what my end specs are and what shims i had to use. i will also take more detailed photos of the lift and how things sit in there.
riderace- what kit did you buy? that makes a big difference in the quailty. skyjacker did their homework, its a badass setup. my axle's ride level and i can use the standard balljoint bushings for alignments. no crazy offsets to get it in spec. i just replaced my front spring bushings so i need to get it aligned. when i do i will post what my end specs are and what shims i had to use. i will also take more detailed photos of the lift and how things sit in there.
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i didnt get a lift kit, i had a buddy at a spring shop help me out on the old springs and added a leaf the the old 250 springs out of the 350 springs i got just to get my height back,it rode on the load busters for a good while and looked really bad, but i was inexperienced dealing with the d50, i didnt want to over lift it, i love the stock look. dont get me wrong, your truck looks awsome but im baffled how yours didnt bow, i havce all new hardware and bushings. its all set now but even a half of a inch of lift and it bows
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when you do a TTB lift
The drop brackets are the MOST important part.
if you do not put these in, every bump you hit will move the tires around and jerk the stearing.
bad camber.
TTB lifts must be done correctly if you value your saftey.
Putting just springs in there is not correct. You must drop the pivot points down.
the TTB setup is a great setup when working properly. I am probably the only one on here who likes them becides coon.
BUT.
I would rather have a d60 for simplicity purposes. I will most likely end up fixing my d50 front with bigger springs and possibly a lift kit, but not as much as coon.
most likely a 2 inch lift with bigger springs, or just a leveling kit.
I have a broken spring as well. so that is inspiration to get going on it.
The TTB is great for trail riding and everything. They handle great, and are better then the chevy/dodge equivalents. All day every day.
The drop brackets are the MOST important part.
if you do not put these in, every bump you hit will move the tires around and jerk the stearing.
bad camber.
TTB lifts must be done correctly if you value your saftey.
Putting just springs in there is not correct. You must drop the pivot points down.
the TTB setup is a great setup when working properly. I am probably the only one on here who likes them becides coon.
BUT.
I would rather have a d60 for simplicity purposes. I will most likely end up fixing my d50 front with bigger springs and possibly a lift kit, but not as much as coon.
most likely a 2 inch lift with bigger springs, or just a leveling kit.
I have a broken spring as well. so that is inspiration to get going on it.
The TTB is great for trail riding and everything. They handle great, and are better then the chevy/dodge equivalents. All day every day.
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Ive still got my d50 and never had a problem w/ it the only reason Id concider changing it is simplicity of design, combined with strength, and reliabilty. But like Coon mines works great and its lifted. (knocking on my wooden desk)
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If you do decide to go with a D60 you will need all the steering linkage and other hardware from the D60 truck. It will bolt in pretty easy and it's a great setup to have if you put your truck through a lot of abuse.
The D50 is a good axle if you set it up right though...
The D50 is a good axle if you set it up right though...