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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 02:35 AM
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The factory shifter on my 87 Mustang GT loosened up by themselves in a couple of years. They had thread lock on them, and I'm not an aggressive shifter. I tightened them myself, and they've held for over 20 years. I get the feeling that sometimes they just don't properly tighten the fasteners in the factory.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 06:48 PM
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My 92 F150 had this same problem. I tried looking it up in Chilton's F150 repair manual and couldn't find anything relevant under "Steering" or "Transmission." So I did a google search under "92 F150 column shifter loose" and it took me to this link.

I've been here dozens of times to get detailed information and have found this site to be "Excellent +++" So I saved myself a lot of trouble and expense by coming here.

Yeah, all I had to do was tighten the two TorX screws! Number 30 was the correct TorX. TorX 27 was a little too loose. Next TorX up from 30 was 40 and 40 was way too big. Nothing between TorX 27 and 30 either. Weird numbering system.

Thanks to all for all the great information and for this very informative website.

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HA!!! my girlfriend figured it out. if it werent for her probably would have torn the steering column all apart to figure it out, since i had to wiggle a weird way to see that the bolts at the end of the shifter were both loose. she's smaller than i am, and was able to see them right off the bat.

any ways it was the two bolts shown in the picture below that had wiggled loose and was making the shifter all sloppy.



hopefully this thread will help others in the future
 

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Old Aug 26, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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ok... my bolts are tight.... now what?

So my bolts are tight. I triple checked. The play is not at the bracket.
When I climb under my dash I see a lot of play between the shift rod and the plastic sleeve when I move the shifter up and down (in park).. prob 1-2" of slack. So where do I check next?

I have an 02 F150 (7700 series) with a Fabtech 6" long arm kit, 5.4 v8 and 4100R trans if that helps.

Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by evobuilder
So my bolts are tight. I triple checked. The play is not at the bracket.
When I climb under my dash I see a lot of play between the shift rod and the plastic sleeve when I move the shifter up and down (in park).. prob 1-2" of slack. So where do I check next?
I had the exact same problem on my 97 Aerostar column shifter. All of the bolts were tight, but it was still sloppy as you have described in the above.

I removed the shifter arm, which is held in place by a steel dowel bolt and a super tiny rubber bumper insert, and noticed a pile of aluminum particles that had accumulated from the the wear and tear of the shifter arm on the shifter tube connection, where the shifter arm connects to the column shift tube.

It seems to be a two-fold problem, or maybe a three-fold problem, or maybe a four-fold problem? The following is from my own experience:

1) The shifter arm was loose because the steel dowel bolt was loose, because the part of the aluminum shifter tube that held the shifter arm in place was partially shaven of its original aluminum vice dimensions.

2) The super tiny rubber insert, and I am not sure if there should be two, one above and one below the shifter arm socket, but if it is missing, the shifter arm will have a lot of play.

3) A broken shift tube arm is a high possibility of a loose shifter arm, but unlikely if you cannot see it broken looking down the shaft movements.

It is still a mystery to me why the shifter arm becomes loose (other than the non-existence loose bolts).
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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ok, interesting

so... when I climb under the dash... and I am looking at the aluminum rod and the black sleeve (tube) and I move the shifter up and down with the slack.... the rod moves within the tube over a inch or more freely.
If everything is working properly, should the rod slide through the tube or should this be a snug, or even tight, fit?
 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:35 PM
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The shift tube is mounted on the top side of the steering column.

To be able to view it, the steering column plastic shrouds need to be removed. Which means the ignition lock cylinder needs to be removed.

 
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Old Aug 28, 2012 | 08:47 PM
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guh! that sounds like a lot of work

maybe I will just learn to live with the guess-0-matic shifter in my F150
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by evobuilder
maybe I will just learn to live with the guess-0-matic shifter in my F150
go to a Pull & Pay salvage yard where there are F150. there must be some similar vehicles to yours that are already partially dismantled, that way you can see and practice before doing it in your vehicle.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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Dorman now makes a replacement shift tube kit, their No. 905-100, and it comes with the plastic bushings. It's around $30. Fits Aerostar, trucks, vans, other Ford cars too.

 

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Old Aug 29, 2012 | 09:49 PM
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My apologies for hurried post; I am very limited on time tonight.

The pics that follow I took back in March. I was in there to lobotomize the shifter interlock, and to make it easier to manually shift to "2" and "L". The shifter was extremely notchy and difficult to downshift, and I'm one of those people who actually use those shift positions a lot, so it was important to me to make it easier to shift. Anyway, I took pics along the way.

Remove the usual stuff: lower panel cover. Disconnect the PRND2L indicator string. In the pic, I unhooked it and unscrewed it from the adjuster, but that's probably not necessary if you're just replacing the shifter tube. However, that cable's 90° fitting breaks very easily, so you may want to unscrew it to avoid stressing it.










Now you can remove the four 15mm nuts and lower the column to access the top of column where the shifter tube's mounted.





Use a Torx socket to remove the screws that retain the wire harness guide. They're smaller than the tube saddle screws, but I don't recall what size.








With the wire harness shoved off to the left, you can remove the shifter gate. Torx T30.















This is the shift gate that I was in there to modify. I filed the two corners shown, and that made a world of difference in manual downshifting.







I didn't remove my shift tube, as it's not broken, but I hope these pics help if someone needs to change theirs. I've replaced a couple over the years, but no pics. If you go to the JY, you'll find many of them missing from columns. I think I'd give the Dorman replacement a try, if I had to replace mine.
 

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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Smile Thanks....

Thanks for the info, tightened up those torx and lo and behold.... she shifts nice and tight again!!
 
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Old Sep 14, 2012 | 12:36 PM
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Whoops....

Whoops, didn't catch that this was the Aerostar forum until I posted, either way it worked on my 95 Eddie Bauer f150 302, so thanks again!
 
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Old Dec 21, 2025 | 02:06 PM
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I'm under mine right now, Bolt(s) are a T30 socket head, not T27. (Although T27 does grip but will probably strip. )
 
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Old Dec 21, 2025 | 05:36 PM
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95 Aerostar. Floppy shifter, & found bolt on floor!

Two days ago I went to put my 95Aerostar into drive and the lever felt floppy for lack of a better term. By moving it back and forward I managed to find drive and got home,, and now need to find out what has happened.

I can find drive and neutral and reverse but they aren't showing correctly on the dash needle. I have now found a bolt with T30 head on the floor by the accelerator pedal, (picture below) and looking through this thread and others assume(?) that it has come from the end of the selector as discussed here. I'm having trouble getting under the dash area to try and view the area, so tomorrow I plan to take out the driver seat and try to lie flat and get far enough 'under' the dash with my head on the pedals and see if I can locate the plate and bolts.

If the 2 bolts discussed above are in place and tight am I right in thinking I will have to drop the whole steering column and see if the comb with the step indents at the end of the selector tube has come loose. Before I do that does anyone have any thoughts that might point me in the right direction? Thanks
Found on floor by throttle pedal. T30 head.
Found on floor by throttle pedal. T30 head.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2025 | 05:18 PM
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Advice needed.

Help please!
I took out the driver seat and can lie under the dash with my head on the pedals, and can see the steel lever plate, and yes, it only has one bolt in the lower hole. So the bolt on the floor must have come from the top one.
But, after several hours of trying I can’t get the hole in the steel plate to line up with the hole in the casting and get the bolt in. I have inserted a thin scriber into the hole and it just goes in a good inch at one edge so the threaded hole is there.
I’m giving up for the day, mightily frustrated, and plan on dropping the column and removing the whole shifter tube tomorrow, which should allow me to locate the plate’s holes, (unless the ali casting had broken across the screw hole, hence the screw fell out) which I can’t see at this point.
Before progressing I do have a couple of questions, 1. Is the shifter cable spring loaded? It seem to be pushing the steel plate towards towards the passenger side no matter how I wiggle the shift lever while trying to insert the bolt, and 2. To remove the shifter tube I have to disconnect the shift cable from the ball joint, does it just pull up and away or is there a trick? I can get a hand up and at it but can’t feel any catch etc.

As always on this forum thank you all for your advice, I greatly appreciate it.

Thank you.
Best pic I could take, no bolt in the top hole.
Best pic I could take, no bolt in the top hole.

 

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