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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:11 PM
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Not all synthetics are made from non crude oil sources. There are several out there that take crude oil and hydro crack it and then reformulate the molucular structure to make synthetic oils for lubricants. Petro canada products is one of them. Mobile is another that does this.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Thanks all for the input! I learn something new each time I come here. I will start a new thread about the 203* since I haven't installed it yet and I imagine Dieselsite would take it back.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
Can we still get 195* stats? They put a 192* in mine back when I first bought the truck. It was stuck open and took FOREVER to warm up. Oddly enough, the dealer replaced the sending unit, too. Gotta love the dealer techs...
That's news to me, Joe. I had not heard that before now. It makes me wonder if you might be able to find the correct "long stem" 195° stats at the International dealer. If I can remmeber to call them, I'll check into that.. or anyone else should also feel free to call and check as well and NOT wait for me to get to it. The way my schedule is going right now, I'm having trouble remembering if I even got up this morning.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2009 | 04:10 PM
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Shearing will take place with both dino and synthetic lubricants because it is the breaking down of the viscosity improvement additives that is the primary cause for viscosity loss (IIRC). The source of the lubricant's base stock will also affect this because it influences the viscosity ratings as well... the better the base stock, the better propensity to maintain viscosity over time.

There are actually two mechanisms involved in shearing... 1) oxidation of the base stock from combustion-related acids, and 2) breaking down of the viscosity improvers due to extended exposure to high shear forces over time.

Oil shear is created when it is compressed so hard and fast between two surfaces that it is completely squeezed out from between them, and that is when a lubricant's ability to provide "barrier" protection is required (something like Teflon, graphite, moly, etc.). The potential problem with Teflon based approaches to barrier lubrication, though, is that it is by itself rather soft and pliable and can also be inadequate in preventing metal-to-metal contact.
This is some great info. I've been wondering what applications to use with which additives: molybdenum disulfide, teflon, graphite, lithium, silicone, zinc, boron nitride, ceramics. So many options, but unfortunately no succinct information for a layperson.

Jake
 
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