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A lot of times we do.
That picture of Rome is pretty impressive, and more so given the fact that it was done LONG before the invention of the internal combustion engine, computers, etc.
But if you look around at some of the wonders today that have been built, it is obvious that cream rises to the top of every generation.
That picture of Rome is pretty impressive, and more so given the fact that it was done LONG before the invention of the internal combustion engine, computers, etc.
But if you look around at some of the wonders today that have been built, it is obvious that cream rises to the top of every generation.
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Begging the question, which one is more advanced? Who had a better quality of life, the person who built the grass hut, or the slaves that built Rome?
The grass hut in Africa serves it's purpose just as well today as it did 2000 years ago, while ancient Rome lies in ruins.
The grass hut in Africa serves it's purpose just as well today as it did 2000 years ago, while ancient Rome lies in ruins.
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What appears to be ruins are the obsolete old unused buildings that were stripped of stone for building newer buildings. Rome is now an advanced society, modern in most ways and they have most any service or amenity that you might ask for. They went through some tough times, but they are still there and doing fine.
They don't have a high incidence of disease and they don't have a high infant mortality rate and they are not ruled by warlords. Also Romans are very educated, which I think has been good for them.
The grass hut serves it's purpose if you don't mind living in filth and enjoying the lowest possible standard of living.
http://cyanatrendland.com/2009/08/05...oam-dome-home/
They don't have a high incidence of disease and they don't have a high infant mortality rate and they are not ruled by warlords. Also Romans are very educated, which I think has been good for them.
The grass hut serves it's purpose if you don't mind living in filth and enjoying the lowest possible standard of living.
http://cyanatrendland.com/2009/08/05...oam-dome-home/
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So the person with the most stuff wins? That is a thoroughly modern perspective you have there, Bdox. Most people who have a "low standard of living" don't know it until somebody tells them they do.
Do Native Americans or Australian Aborigines have a better quality of life now than they did 1000 years ago?
Do Native Americans or Australian Aborigines have a better quality of life now than they did 1000 years ago?
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May seem that way at first glance. But it has to do with things like freedom from disease.
And a country like Italy has the possibility of intellectual pursuits and stimulation that Africans living in shacks can't even imagine. If you encounter primitive people who are amazed by a ziplock bag and can't seem to learn to boil the water in their polluted river which they fish out completely... you realize that the idea of the "noble savage" only applies to a rare few primitives.
Your second question is not one that has a single answer. In instances where a people is "managed" by another culture, it is a story that only has a happy ending if you tell it backwards.
I don't know much about the native Australians.
And a country like Italy has the possibility of intellectual pursuits and stimulation that Africans living in shacks can't even imagine. If you encounter primitive people who are amazed by a ziplock bag and can't seem to learn to boil the water in their polluted river which they fish out completely... you realize that the idea of the "noble savage" only applies to a rare few primitives.
Your second question is not one that has a single answer. In instances where a people is "managed" by another culture, it is a story that only has a happy ending if you tell it backwards.
I don't know much about the native Australians.
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May seem that way at first glance. But it has to do with things like freedom from disease.
And a country like Italy has the possibility of intellectual pursuits and stimulation that Africans living in shacks can't even imagine. If you encounter primitive people who are amazed by a ziplock bag and can't seem to learn to boil the water in their polluted river which they fish out completely... you realize that the idea of the "noble savage" only applies to a rare few primitives.
Your second question is not one that has a single answer. In instances where a people is "managed" by another culture, it is a story that only has a happy ending if you tell it backwards.
I don't know much about the native Australians.
And a country like Italy has the possibility of intellectual pursuits and stimulation that Africans living in shacks can't even imagine. If you encounter primitive people who are amazed by a ziplock bag and can't seem to learn to boil the water in their polluted river which they fish out completely... you realize that the idea of the "noble savage" only applies to a rare few primitives.
Your second question is not one that has a single answer. In instances where a people is "managed" by another culture, it is a story that only has a happy ending if you tell it backwards.
I don't know much about the native Australians.
You can have you disdain for people living in "filth" in grass huts, but sociologists have repeatedly shown that the happiest people are generally the ones with modest expectation. In other words, wealth, possessions, and education don't make you happy, and in fact the desire for them are the leading cause of unhappiness.
The good news is you are going to live longer, the bad news is you will be less satisfied with your life. Seems like a significant trade off to me.
I personally am much more in awe of a skilled flintknapper than a ziplock bag.
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You are correct clux - it's is the delta between expectations and reality that is the rub 
I always told the kids, "Never be satiated, but be satisfied"
i.e. be content with where you are at in life, but always try to improve ...
as far as 'social progress' --- all depends on how and who defines the word 'better', doesn't it ?
I always told the kids, "Never be satiated, but be satisfied"
i.e. be content with where you are at in life, but always try to improve ...
as far as 'social progress' --- all depends on how and who defines the word 'better', doesn't it ?
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In the meantime,while those living in grass shacks in Africa have remained living much like they did 2000 years ago,Rome has both collapsed from its its decadence and hedonism,and arisen as a much different society than what it once was.
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In the meantime,while those living in grass shacks in Africa have remained living much like they did 2000
Except now they have AK-47's and aids. It's not that they don't want technology
years ago,Rome has both collapsed from its its decadence and hedonism,and arisen as a much different society than what it once was.
Except now they have AK-47's and aids. It's not that they don't want technology
years ago,Rome has both collapsed from its its decadence and hedonism,and arisen as a much different society than what it once was.
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