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New truck?
We currently have an Excursion and are wanting to add another truck for towing. We need an reliable truck that will NOT leave us on the side of the road. We drive about 75,000 miles a year and have a strict schedule that we cannot bend so reliablity is a MUST. We are looking at an F-450 and are wondering what people are getting for MPG is real life. Are there any issues that we need to be aware about with the newer models?
Thanks, Bryan
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if u want reliability above all else get the F450 with the V10...
the new 6.4 is a great motor, but its still causing threads to pop up here more then new V10 trucks do..
so ur call but i dont think the 6.4 diesel will be as releiable as u say u need... and when they break down its a BIG repair as in, cab off the truck type BIG...
p.s. the new 3V V10 with the torqshift 5speed auto is a completly different animal from the 03 Exc. ur currently driving..
i'd suggest u find a new V10 to test drive even if its in a 250/350.. just as a comparision to what u have now...
the new 6.4 is a great motor, but its still causing threads to pop up here more then new V10 trucks do..
so ur call but i dont think the 6.4 diesel will be as releiable as u say u need... and when they break down its a BIG repair as in, cab off the truck type BIG...
p.s. the new 3V V10 with the torqshift 5speed auto is a completly different animal from the 03 Exc. ur currently driving..
i'd suggest u find a new V10 to test drive even if its in a 250/350.. just as a comparision to what u have now...
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if u want reliability above all else get the F450 with the V10...
the new 6.4 is a great motor, but its still causing threads to pop up here more then new V10 trucks do..
so ur call but i dont think the 6.4 diesel will be as releiable as u say u need... and when they break down its a BIG repair as in, cab off the truck type BIG...
p.s. the new 3V V10 with the torqshift 5speed auto is a completly different animal from the 03 Exc. ur currently driving..
i'd suggest u find a new V10 to test drive even if its in a 250/350.. just as a comparision to what u have now...
the new 6.4 is a great motor, but its still causing threads to pop up here more then new V10 trucks do..
so ur call but i dont think the 6.4 diesel will be as releiable as u say u need... and when they break down its a BIG repair as in, cab off the truck type BIG...
p.s. the new 3V V10 with the torqshift 5speed auto is a completly different animal from the 03 Exc. ur currently driving..
i'd suggest u find a new V10 to test drive even if its in a 250/350.. just as a comparision to what u have now...
I have heard that but since I have a V10 already I thought that I would want to get a little better gas mileage. I haul a 33' toy hauler year round for work; I put two job site boxes in the back and then drop them off at the job site (then I have a two bedroom trailer). I know that driving I-70 is not much fun in the X with 11,500 - 12,000 in back with 3.73. Since I have 250,000 miles on the '03 I don't want to push it too much. I was also looking at the Dodge 3500 crew cab mega cab. We are still looking at all our options but a 3v V10 test drive might be in the near future.
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Wow, 75,000 miles a year. The '05 and newer V10's are more powerful, the Torqshift transmissions are way better and you can have tow command brake controller. All these things make the Superduty super. So I would have to agree with Fordfanatic4life and say go with the proven V10.
A F350 dually would easily handle 12k, heck even a SRW would handle that but for that much towing I would recommend the dually, just in case you want to go with a bigger camper in the future
A F350 dually would easily handle 12k, heck even a SRW would handle that but for that much towing I would recommend the dually, just in case you want to go with a bigger camper in the future
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Wow, 75,000 miles a year. The '05 and newer V10's are more powerful, the Torqshift transmissions are way better and you can have tow command brake controller. All these things make the Superduty super. So I would have to agree with Fordfanatic4life and say go with the proven V10.
A F350 dually would easily handle 12k, heck even a SRW would handle that but for that much towing I would recommend the dually, just in case you want to go with a bigger camper in the future
A F350 dually would easily handle 12k, heck even a SRW would handle that but for that much towing I would recommend the dually, just in case you want to go with a bigger camper in the future
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There is no sense in getting a smaller truck now and then having to replace it with another truck that can handle the larger trailer. That is why I am having to think long and hard about the diesel (no ford or ford) vs. the V10. We will see, we are looking at a couple of other trucks as well.Thanks for all the great info so far.
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If you do get the Raptor will you be able to pull it a Mega Cab? It's got an awfully small bed. Course you could always get a Long Bed Mega Cab dually. 
You will not get better mileage (for the most part) with the 3V V10. It's more powerful and that takes fuel. It may have 50+ HP on your Excursion but it's 500RPM higher as well to get to it. The biggest advantage to a 3V V10 CC is the ability to get the 4.30 gears you really need. It will tow your current trailer much easier than your Excursion can.
In some cases it might get better MPG. If the entire load is lighter, you might. SRW CCs are lighter than the Excursion but not by much.
I wouldn't put a whole lot into the whole MPG thing for a couple of reasons.
1. The $6,000+ premium for the PSD buys a lot of fuel.
2. It doesn't matter how good of MPG you get if you're sitting on the side of the road.
Now, of course, either engine can break down...that's understood...but history shows that the V10 has quite an edge on reliability over Ford's diesels.
You will not get better mileage (for the most part) with the 3V V10. It's more powerful and that takes fuel. It may have 50+ HP on your Excursion but it's 500RPM higher as well to get to it. The biggest advantage to a 3V V10 CC is the ability to get the 4.30 gears you really need. It will tow your current trailer much easier than your Excursion can.
In some cases it might get better MPG. If the entire load is lighter, you might. SRW CCs are lighter than the Excursion but not by much.
I wouldn't put a whole lot into the whole MPG thing for a couple of reasons.
1. The $6,000+ premium for the PSD buys a lot of fuel.
2. It doesn't matter how good of MPG you get if you're sitting on the side of the road.
Now, of course, either engine can break down...that's understood...but history shows that the V10 has quite an edge on reliability over Ford's diesels.
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Hey Bryan,
I would post this question on the 6.4L thread, because you are only getting v10 responses here. I only have 6600 miles on mine and its a 250. I get 12 city and 15 hwy. I haven't towed anything. I bought the diesel for longevity and towing power. Why do you think truckers run diesels? I knew going in what the fuel milage would be and they say it will get better as it gets broken in. I did get 16 on 1 tank. I'm not going to argue with the gas vs. diesel crowd. I am an independent trucker and would seriously consider consider the diesel for your application. I have a friend who has a '08 350 srw long bed 6.4L that pulls a 35 ft. 5th wheel 12,500 lb. camper and loves it. Can't remember his milage towing but seems like it was 9-11mpgs towing. I would definately get drw for stability. The service manager where I bought mine says they can have the cab off in about 30 mins when needed so not that big of deal, but kind of limits what you can do yourself. I looked at Dodge and Chevy both, to me there was no comparison. The Dodge is totally made in Mexico. Good luck on your decision, take your time and compare all options. So far I love mine.
I would post this question on the 6.4L thread, because you are only getting v10 responses here. I only have 6600 miles on mine and its a 250. I get 12 city and 15 hwy. I haven't towed anything. I bought the diesel for longevity and towing power. Why do you think truckers run diesels? I knew going in what the fuel milage would be and they say it will get better as it gets broken in. I did get 16 on 1 tank. I'm not going to argue with the gas vs. diesel crowd. I am an independent trucker and would seriously consider consider the diesel for your application. I have a friend who has a '08 350 srw long bed 6.4L that pulls a 35 ft. 5th wheel 12,500 lb. camper and loves it. Can't remember his milage towing but seems like it was 9-11mpgs towing. I would definately get drw for stability. The service manager where I bought mine says they can have the cab off in about 30 mins when needed so not that big of deal, but kind of limits what you can do yourself. I looked at Dodge and Chevy both, to me there was no comparison. The Dodge is totally made in Mexico. Good luck on your decision, take your time and compare all options. So far I love mine.
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Monsta was on the right track, but with 3.73s and 12K behind you, why not just regear to 4.30. Your truck would definitely (as Texas Gov Rick Perry put it) get on down the road better, with or without the trailer. Just ask Monsta, he noticed a big difference in his truck when he got my 4.30s. Joe aka X_Hemi_Guy, can tell you what 4.30s did for him on his '05.
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Monsta was on the right track, but with 3.73s and 12K behind you, why not just regear to 4.30. Your truck would definitely (as Texas Gov Rick Perry put it) get on down the road better, with or without the trailer. Just ask Monsta, he noticed a big difference in his truck when he got my 4.30s. Joe aka X_Hemi_Guy, can tell you what 4.30s did for him on his '05.
Am I going insane because I can't find any info on an F-450 with a v10. I also have to have a crew cab.
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