Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

Flywheel questions

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 12, 2009 | 11:48 PM
  #1  
540milotalon's Avatar
540milotalon
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
15 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 869
Likes: 5
From: Near Shenandoah Valley
Flywheel questions

I have the second (replaced the factory at 83k)dual mass flywheel going bad at 173k. I have been internent shopping and found a LUk solid flywheel/clutch combo. Does anyone have any comments on quality?


'96PSD-173k,5 speed 355's,140volt IDM,DIY exhaust Brake,3" downpipe,K+N filter-stock.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:03 AM
  #2  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,799
Likes: 103
From: Ashland City, TN
Lots of guys use the LUK Single Mass Flywheel here.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:30 AM
  #3  
48' fordster's Avatar
48' fordster
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Standish ME


What does a bad flywheel sound like? Stupid noob question, but just wondering.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:03 AM
  #4  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,799
Likes: 103
From: Ashland City, TN
They rattle and make some clunking noises.

They come apart, which isn't to good. So they rattle.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:16 AM
  #5  
952X4's Avatar
952X4
Senior User
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 321
Likes: 0
From: Darien, Wi
I put a Luk SMF and clutch in about 35K ago and love it...I've seen that lots of people complain about the noise of SMF's, mine is very quiet..I have no regrets and would do it again..
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:41 AM
  #6  
540milotalon's Avatar
540milotalon
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
15 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 869
Likes: 5
From: Near Shenandoah Valley
Flywheel

Thanks for the help.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 11:06 AM
  #7  
fire7882's Avatar
fire7882
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
You should also be able to go with a 97-98 or newer stock single mass flywheel for a good bit cheaper. I have a 1997 F450 that has a single mass but I think the F250 and F350 didn't switch till 1998? I'm not positive about those dates but a single mass could probable be picked up at a junk yard for less than $100.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 01:38 PM
  #8  
48' fordster's Avatar
48' fordster
Elder User
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 837
Likes: 0
From: Standish ME
Originally Posted by Talyn
They rattle and make some clunking noises.

They come apart, which isn't to good. So they rattle.
Would they make these noises when driving or just during start up and shutdown? Because when i shut my truck off it stops the motor real fast and rattles and sounds like crap. It is quite embarrassing.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 03:44 PM
  #9  
Talyn's Avatar
Talyn
Hotshot
20 Year Member
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 17,799
Likes: 103
From: Ashland City, TN
I think generally people say they are really noisy when shutting down.
I think they make vibrations when they are running though.

Neal and some others could tell you. I don't know for sure. I am sure mine is rattling though.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:38 PM
  #10  
Andy's250's Avatar
Andy's250
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 213
Likes: 0
From: College station, TX
I have had a luk sing mass flywheel in my truck for about 85000 miles. i just put the second clutch on it about 2500 miles ago. I love it. i wouldnt switch back for anything. the clutch coulda lasted longer but i was 17 when i put it on and not very nice to it overall its pretty quiet to me
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:50 PM
  #11  
79_250RangerLariat's Avatar
79_250RangerLariat
Posting Guru
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,729
Likes: 2
I'm running Luk in my dump truck, I like it and it works well. A little extra noise, but then again the trans is about shot. After reading other posts I'm looking at Valiar when my 97 needs one.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:07 PM
  #12  
RubberDuck's Avatar
RubberDuck
Logistics Pro
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,137
Likes: 41
From: Marble Falls, Texas
Club FTE Silver Member

The LUK is a great clutch, I ran one years ago and it was great. Just couldn't hold much power. But like mentioned above, Valair is the only way I go now. Awsome clutches, second to none customer service. Check'em out. www.valairinc.com/performance . You can call them and talk to Dan or Kevin and tell them Cody from Death Row Diesel sent you, they will knock a bunch off the price of a clutch set up. Either way you can't go wrong, but I far prefer the Valair.

As far as what the DMF does when it's on the way out. Yes, when you turn the truck off, it will rattle like hell. And on start up too. I also found that they will rattle under quick throttle situations too.

And yes, a SMF will be a little more noise. Most can be solved by adding a little more fluid to the tranny. There have been some that can't cure the noise for one reason or another and it's unacceptable. And in each one of those cases that it was a Valair clutch, Dan and Kevin have bent over backwards to try and get the problem solved. One case that's actually on going in our forum, I believe it's SHOpar that keeps having noise problems with his Valair. I know personally that Dan and the Valair guys are looking at every concievable angle to get his problem solved. You won't get that kind of service from LUK, or any other clutch builder. Hope that helps man.
 
Reply
Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:15 PM
  #13  
540milotalon's Avatar
540milotalon
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
15 Year Member
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 869
Likes: 5
From: Near Shenandoah Valley
Flywheel

Hey thanks to all that jumped on here. On those dual mass flywheels, not only are they noisy but it's hard to get in gear. This is exactly what the old one did and when we opened her up there were pieces missing(springs and such) and we never found them. Must have went out the exhaust.

I will check out the Valair web site and call tomorrow.
 
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 10:11 AM
  #14  
Neal 97 250's Avatar
Neal 97 250
Post Fiend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 9,010
Likes: 5
From: Johnson City, TN.
I agree, I love my Valair clutch.

When my DMF went out it would shake the truck like I had a 20 pound weight stuck in the tire. It was crazy feeling. Mine didn't make much noise but would vibrate real bad every now and then. When I took it off almost half of the ball from the ball bearing were missing. Where did they go? Who knows but when all the ***** would collect on one side it would vibrate like crazy. Sometimes it would run normal when the ***** got spaced out real good.

P.S. About the stock SMF. It may be available in 450 but was not put in 250 or 350's at all. There also was not a such thing as a '98 250 or 350. They stopped the OBS in '97 and started the SD in "99. The only 250 that was made in '98 was a light duty, which was nothing more than a hopped up 150. None were diesels and talk about ugly!!!!
 
Reply
Old Sep 14, 2009 | 11:08 AM
  #15  
fire7882's Avatar
fire7882
Senior User
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Neal 97 250
I agree, I love my Valair clutch.

P.S. About the stock SMF. It may be available in 450 but was not put in 250 or 350's at all. There also was not a such thing as a '98 250 or 350. They stopped the OBS in '97 and started the SD in "99. The only 250 that was made in '98 was a light duty, which was nothing more than a hopped up 150. None were diesels and talk about ugly!!!!
Thanks for that info. Would a 99 to 03 single mass flywheel/ clutch/ pressure plate combo work? Here is a picture of the engine from my f450/ f super-duty. The single mass flywheel might not be stock but it was on there when I got it. With 250,000 miles plus, the dual mass could have been replaced a long time ago.

 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:43 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE