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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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folks I need some help!

my '02 250 4x4 5.4L is missing,/bucking when in 4th gear (automatic) when its under a load @1500-1800 rpm range, when I down shift, it clears up. for instance, I was towing my boat last night and around 60mph in 4th gear you could really feel it, put it in tow/haul mode, went to 3rd and ran fine.(2500rpm)
I have changed fuel filter, air filter, cleaned MAF sensor and ran codes, had 2 pending codes... knock sensor 325 high circuit and 232 fuel pump secondary circuit high.
what gives???
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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sounds just like when a boot goes on the crown vics. runs like crap at low rpm's under load, but like a banshee when you stand on it.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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hey i have a banshee, see aviatar. yeah definatley a c.o.p. btw you dont have tow/haul mode on your 02
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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how come the snapon scanner did not pick up the cop?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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how come the snapon scanner did not pick up the cop?
They never do, these trucks were only OBD1 before 05...
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wizardsr
They never do, these trucks were only OBD1 before 05...


HUH???

I'm nearly positive that OBD I died in 1996. HERE's a thread on another forum with someone reading OBD-II codes on an '01 7.3L Super Duty.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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how come the snapon scanner did not pick up the cop?
The coils half fire half don't as they go out, the code does not set tell the thing gos out for good. BTW, All 96 and newer are OBD II.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:48 PM
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so how do I figure out which cop is bad????
 
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Old Sep 10, 2009 | 11:54 PM
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I have heard 3 different methods. 1 replace them all.
2, with it running pull one COP wire, put it back and pull another. It will run worse when you pull them off the wrong one. you found it when you pull it and it runs the same.
3 Drive it tell it dies ( the coil, not the truck) and sets a code. The way I do it.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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so what does the knock sensor code mean????
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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What is the code?
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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PO325, I read an interesting thread on it being the fuel pressure regulator???!!!??? But I stil cant figure where mine is
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy001


HUH???

I'm nearly positive that OBD I died in 1996. HERE's a thread on another forum with someone reading OBD-II codes on an '01 7.3L Super Duty.
Not sure about the 7.3, but his is a gasser. The gassers over 8600 gvw before 05 only have OBD1 communication, not OBDII. Here's a thread that explains it better than I can. I've dealt with bad COP's before, the only way to figure out which one is bad is to buy a new one, and start swapping until the miss goes away. PITA, but the computer doesn't have the ability to determine which cylinder is misfiring, and a misfire wont turn on the check engine light. When I had a bad cop on my 2000 V10, there was no check engine light, but there was a code in the computer (dont remember what it was), but it was completely unrelated to the miss.
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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I'm at work so I can't check, but ...

I'm pretty sure my 2002 F250 5.4 is OBD II

Twice I've had a bad coil .... each time I had a "light load miss" that did not throw the MIL. Instead, the truck's computer is counting the misses --- pending codes --- before it throws the MIL.

I needed a code reader sophisticated enough to read the pending codes, and it gave me the offending cyclinder. (IIRC, I have an Actron 9145)
 
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Old Sep 11, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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PO325, I read an interesting thread on it being the fuel pressure regulator???!!!??? But I stil cant figure where mine is
I would delete it and see if it comes back. A coil is most likely the problem.
 
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