tuners and towing
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tuners and towing
So, whats the recommendation on using a tuner and towing..
I see Spartan suggests not tuning while towing, others say a little is ok..
and what level of towing are we talking about? my first set of tows will be with a measly 7000lb bumper pull enclosed car carrier. later (next year) we will swap over to gooseneck.
Sam
I see Spartan suggests not tuning while towing, others say a little is ok..
and what level of towing are we talking about? my first set of tows will be with a measly 7000lb bumper pull enclosed car carrier. later (next year) we will swap over to gooseneck.
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I recently turned the tuner off and hated towing that way. Regen, after Regen after Regen not to mention the lack of power.
I had mine on 3 most of the time and 4 once in awhile. As long as you watch your EGT's on higher levels you should be fine.
I had mine on 3 most of the time and 4 once in awhile. As long as you watch your EGT's on higher levels you should be fine.
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Looking at a Superchips Flashpaq.. I know Banks and Spartan are better, but the pocket says a little for a little is better than none at all.
not ready to go all the way to DPF/CAT delete (yet, only SD day 4 for me!)
ran an Edge on my F150 with good results, so I know what they can do.
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I don't know about Superchips but with these trucks it is important to have the tranny tuned as well as the motor. If not you will have issues.
I have an Edge variant from PHP that I use for Gauges. I did put the chip on 4 to see the difference and the mileage was vastly improved but the tranny shifted funny so I put it back to Stock.
The only two I know have tranny tunes are Spartan and Banks. Banks takes over the duties of the PCM by inserting itself in the middle while Spartan reflashes everything including the tranny tunes. If Superchips does not tune the tranny as well you may want to think twice. I actually would wait until you can affort Spartan's since it seems to be the most liked.
I am with you on the DPF. Once I get to 70,000 on my truck I am removing it but leaving the truck on a stock performance level. I was fine going up and down the pass on the stock level this weekend until the Regen hit. What a pain in the behind if you know what I mean. 35 mph up the pass and redlining tranny temps because of lack of power.
I have an Edge variant from PHP that I use for Gauges. I did put the chip on 4 to see the difference and the mileage was vastly improved but the tranny shifted funny so I put it back to Stock.
The only two I know have tranny tunes are Spartan and Banks. Banks takes over the duties of the PCM by inserting itself in the middle while Spartan reflashes everything including the tranny tunes. If Superchips does not tune the tranny as well you may want to think twice. I actually would wait until you can affort Spartan's since it seems to be the most liked.
I am with you on the DPF. Once I get to 70,000 on my truck I am removing it but leaving the truck on a stock performance level. I was fine going up and down the pass on the stock level this weekend until the Regen hit. What a pain in the behind if you know what I mean. 35 mph up the pass and redlining tranny temps because of lack of power.
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I don't know about Superchips but with these trucks it is important to have the tranny tuned as well as the motor. If not you will have issues.
I have an Edge variant from PHP that I use for Gauges. I did put the chip on 4 to see the difference and the mileage was vastly improved but the tranny shifted funny so I put it back to Stock.
The only two I know have tranny tunes are Spartan and Banks. Banks takes over the duties of the PCM by inserting itself in the middle while Spartan reflashes everything including the tranny tunes. If Superchips does not tune the tranny as well you may want to think twice. I actually would wait until you can affort Spartan's since it seems to be the most liked.
I am with you on the DPF. Once I get to 70,000 on my truck I am removing it but leaving the truck on a stock performance level. I was fine going up and down the pass on the stock level this weekend until the Regen hit. What a pain in the behind if you know what I mean. 35 mph up the pass and redlining tranny temps because of lack of power.
I have an Edge variant from PHP that I use for Gauges. I did put the chip on 4 to see the difference and the mileage was vastly improved but the tranny shifted funny so I put it back to Stock.
The only two I know have tranny tunes are Spartan and Banks. Banks takes over the duties of the PCM by inserting itself in the middle while Spartan reflashes everything including the tranny tunes. If Superchips does not tune the tranny as well you may want to think twice. I actually would wait until you can affort Spartan's since it seems to be the most liked.
I am with you on the DPF. Once I get to 70,000 on my truck I am removing it but leaving the truck on a stock performance level. I was fine going up and down the pass on the stock level this weekend until the Regen hit. What a pain in the behind if you know what I mean. 35 mph up the pass and redlining tranny temps because of lack of power.
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my service writer gave a print out the last time i had my truck in for work and it mentioned that any aftermarket performance part you put on the truck, if something in line with that part fails Ford is not reponsible?
I never had any trouble with my last 05 with a magnaflow exhaust.. have they gotten strickter with the 6.4s?
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I never had any trouble with my last 05 with a magnaflow exhaust.. have they gotten strickter with the 6.4s?
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my service writer gave a print out the last time i had my truck in for work and it mentioned that any aftermarket performance part you put on the truck, if something in line with that part fails Ford is not reponsible?
I never had any trouble with my last 05 with a magnaflow exhaust.. have they gotten strickter with the 6.4s?
Koboss
I never had any trouble with my last 05 with a magnaflow exhaust.. have they gotten strickter with the 6.4s?
Koboss
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took mine in today. My tow mirrors were making a sound like they lacked lubrication. No questions about tuners or anything.
but I did tell them no pcm updates that the truck runs great.
but I did tell them no pcm updates that the truck runs great.
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Didn't take a thing off but they were never under the hood either.
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Around here, we take our company rigs in with the nitrous bottles still bolted to the rear floorboard. Others seem to have issues with anything.
Lately it is much less a problem with Ford as a company and more with the personal whims of whomever is in charge of the decision-making at the time.
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I think i did, if putting tuners on trucks for towing or performance while your new truck is still under Ford warranty.
Do you still have your truck in warranty Sam? or is it out? mine still is and not sure if they have gotten more strick pertaining to tuners, they (My Ford store) wasnt to worried about upgrades for performance but i found a sheet in my truck talking about warranty voids from ford concerning any performance upgrades.
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Do you still have your truck in warranty Sam? or is it out? mine still is and not sure if they have gotten more strick pertaining to tuners, they (My Ford store) wasnt to worried about upgrades for performance but i found a sheet in my truck talking about warranty voids from ford concerning any performance upgrades.
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Thanks Matt and I saw that with my local dealer on my 6.0 liter. They went from being fine with mods to not within a week. My buddy got his headgaskets done the week before and they were fine with his set up and then I went in the following week and bam... no warranty.