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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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need help with ats turbo

i really need help getting this ats turbo apart, i removed the intake side now i want to remove the exhaust side. i have i loose but cannot get it out of housing, anyone had this problem? maybe i forgot to take something off? i dunno check it out....
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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no one? got any ideas????
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 07:41 PM
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put a couple of bolts back in the exh housing and do the following lifted from a garrett rebuild how-to.
"Remove all of the turbine housing bolts except for the two at the top and bottom of the housing. (across from the oil feed-in line and oil outlet) These two screws will hit the center section and be used as "jacking" screws to push the turbine housing off of the center section.
Back both of the above bolts out until they hit the center section. Continue to alternately turn each bolt about 1/4 turn until the center turbine housing is separated form the center section."
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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i did try that with the stock bolts but on the one side its not quite long enough, and it just gets crooked in the exhaust housing,, i will head to the store and get some longer bolts and see if that does the trick... thanx alot for the info
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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You could also try to heat up the turbine housing a little. Not very hot, just enough to help loosen it.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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You could also try to heat up the turbine housing a little. Not very hot, just enough to help loosen it.
heat it up i will try... i was just worried id mess it up
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 08:41 PM
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Well don't make it cherry red or anything crazy like that, just warm it up a little. When I got my 088 turbo kit the Y pipe was still inserted in the turbo housing inlet and it felt strong enough to have been wielded in place. A few seconds with a torch and it plopped out no questions asked. Remember, that housing gets really hot under normal use.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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Well don't make it cherry red or anything crazy like that, just warm it up a little. When I got my 088 turbo kit the Y pipe was still inserted in the turbo housing inlet and it felt strong enough to have been wielded in place. A few seconds with a torch and it plopped out no questions asked. Remember, that housing gets really hot under normal use.
haha ya i guess i would get kind warm wouldn't it ..that kinda just slipped my mind haha
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:45 PM
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i dont know a whole lot about turbos, but from the vid it looks like the center section is loose from the outer exhaust cover just the exhaust wheel is hung in the exhaust cover. that means that if you try to spin the intake wheel by hand while pulling out on it, it doesnt turn right. isnt the tolerence between the exhaust wheel and the housing very tight? lets say that if the exhaust wheel hadnt been used in quite awhile rust could have built up on the wheel and not allowing the wheel to slip past the housing. like i said i dont know a hole lot about turbos just throwing a posible cause. if its rust thats the culprit cant you posibly spray some pb blaster or something in there to kind of loosen up the rust enough to let loose.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:46 PM
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i dont know a whole lot about turbos, but from the vid it looks like the center section is loose from the outer exhaust cover just the exhaust wheel is hung in the exhaust cover. that means that if you try to spin the intake wheel by hand while pulling out on it, it doesnt turn right. isnt the tolerence between the exhaust wheel and the housing very tight? lets say that if the exhaust wheel hadnt been used in quite awhile rust could have built up on the wheel and not allowing the wheel to slip past the housing. like i said i dont know a hole lot about turbos just throwing a posible cause. if its rust thats the culprit cant you posibly spray some pb blaster or something in there to kind of loosen up the rust enough to let loose.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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i dont know a whole lot about turbos, but from the vid it looks like the center section is loose from the outer exhaust cover just the exhaust wheel is hung in the exhaust cover. that means that if you try to spin the intake wheel by hand while pulling out on it, it doesnt turn right. isnt the tolerence between the exhaust wheel and the housing very tight? lets say that if the exhaust wheel hadnt been used in quite awhile rust could have built up on the wheel and not allowing the wheel to slip past the housing. like i said i dont know a hole lot about turbos just throwing a posible cause. if its rust thats the culprit cant you posibly spray some pb blaster or something in there to kind of loosen up the rust enough to let loose.
now thats thinking, unforchanatly turbine spins free as when she was new haha. i can even see it spining in the exhaust housing, thing has just been in there too long i suppose. thanx alot
 
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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now thats thinking, unforchanatly turbine spins free as when she was new haha. i can even see it spining in the exhaust housing, thing has just been in there too long i suppose. thanx alot
yes but in the video it looked as if the center portion of the turbo was loose from the exhaust housing. if so ,if you grab the intake wheel it should spin freely until you lift up like your removing the whole center section does the intake wheel jamb up and you cant turn it anymore.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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yes but in the video it looked as if the center portion of the turbo was loose from the exhaust housing. if so ,if you grab the intake wheel it should spin freely until you lift up like your removing the whole center section does the intake wheel jamb up and you cant turn it anymore.
yes if you lift up it definatly jams up, hardly any tolerance in there at all.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 12:17 AM
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yes if you lift up it definatly jams up, hardly any tolerance in there at all.
ok so that tells me that theres either rust on the wheel or it has sustained some kind of damage not allowing it to come out of the housing. can you see the exhaust wheel with the housing still on? and if so does it have alot of rust on it?
 
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Sounds like the heat shield wants to come off with the turbine housing.


Its the cup shaped part right next to #2 on the diagram. Its a tight fit to the centre housing and the turbine housing so once you get a few thousand miles worth of heat expansion, soot, and some rust too boot, they can get rather comfortable where they are.
Sometimes a gentle tap while holding the assembly by the compressor side will pop it off. You don't want to over do it though, because you will be pulling against the turboshaft when pulling in this manner.

Gentle heat and penatrating oil will help.
 
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