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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Engine Rebuild 351W

I'm wanting to rebuild my 351 windsor from my 1988 f250. I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm hoping that ya'll can help me. I know the basic fundamentals about an engine but this will be a first for me. I was hoping for tip and tricks on parts, things that should be upgraded, and things that should be left alone. This is what i want out of my truck. I'm not looking for any more power then it already has. I am looking for better fuel consumption. I'm also looking at buying parts that will last. I've been watching my mechanic shows (gearz, muscle car, truck u, two guys grarage, and xtreme 4x4) and have been doing some research. I know later on I'll be doing suspension, exhaust, brakes and things of that nature. However, like previously stated what are some good parts or parts store for a 351 windsor. I'm wanting new pistons, camshaft, intake manifold, bearings, gaskets and all the other goodies. Is it better to buy the parts seperate or to buy a kit...if a kit which one? I'm hoping to keep the price below $1210, cause that's what a new crate will cost me. Please help
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Your not looking for any more power , so i would get a reman short block from some one like jasper or so on , You can learn alot that way doing some of it yourself with out doing the bottom end , that needs to be built by a good engine builder...Lew
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 03:50 PM
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I agree.. taking on an engine rebuild is not a task for someone who just knows basic fundamentals.

You do realize that by increasing power output but driving the truck the same, you're going to get better mileage, right?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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When I priced the parts + machine shop for a stock rebuild, I found that Orilley had the best deal for a crate engine. The engine cost $1100 or so. If you want performance parts, then rebuilding may make more sense
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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I was wanting to learn about how to do all of it, but it I was to buy the engine this is where I was looking at getting it. 1210 included the shipping and the core charge. http://www.gearheadengines.com/CrateEngines they are located in cali. but ship from texas. I think I'm going to get that engine or a reman. one then I can rebuild the one I pull out and take all the time I want with it..... idk... is it really that hard to rebuild an engine?
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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The actual building part of a rebuild is easy as long as everything is machined correctly, you follow the right proceedure(get a shop manual or rebuilding guide) and torque everything to spec. There are a few specialized tools required like a ring compressor, TQ wrench, and spring compressor for the heads, but otherwise it's just common hand tools. It's pretty easy to spend a grand on machine on a rebuild so buying a crate rebuild is cheaper but they're not always the same quality as what you would do yourself, so you do get what you pay for. Rebuilding the stock heads is money wasted too in my opinion, look for a set that are already rebuilt or buy some from the aftermarket. The last point I want to make is it costs no more to get a bit more power than stock from the rebuild, simply buy a performance cam instead of a stock spec cam.. they cost the same. Just make sure it's a EFI friendly cam, there are several that myself and others have used that qualify.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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so when rebuilding would it be best to tear everything apart and then start ordering parts that away you can see what you can reuse, or can i start ordering some parts now.... I know I'll need to wait on the pistons and stuff like that incase I have to bore it out. Also can I reuse stock parts like lifters, springs, things like that or should I probley try to replace as much as I can. Was wathing my truck U show and they said that things in the 1980's were great but technology has come along ways since then so you should replace most of those parts, however they were refering to brakes and not engines.... I'm also asking alot of questions so for when other rookies, or noobies however you want to put it decides they want to do a rebuild all the questions will have been asked and answered I'm also planning on doing a step by step photo shoot and post it.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 11:02 AM
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The correct way to do a rebuild is to stip everything down and send it to a machine shop for inspection. Once the block and crank have been measured and verified to have no cracks they will tell you how much work it needs and then you can order a rebuild kit with the right size pistons and bearings. The crank, rods and block are the only things that should be reused from the bottom end, everything else should be new. The heads should get new springs and guides and have the valve seats cleaned up minimum, ask your machineist what this would cost. Replacing the valves and any other custom work(porting) can quickly add up and this is why it's not cost effective to rebuild heads, you can buy ready to install remanufactured heads for as little as $200 each, just search the web and local distributors.
 
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