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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:21 PM
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Draining T/C?

With any luck I'll get to install my John Wood VB, DP tuner and OBA this w/e.
So I'm wondering how best to service the tranny fluid, short of a flush. The tranny was a Ford rebuild from two years ago (diode). I'm assuming it does not have synthetic in it. So the question is how many places need to be opened and drained in order to refill with syn? I'm guessing I should drain the T/C. Is that as straight forward as it looks? Are there any gaskets etc. that I'll need on hand, or is it all reusable like the main pan? Are there any other place I need to be aware of?

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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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Why do you assume it has syn? Ford won't put syn in there, unless you tell them to (and pay for it!). Best method is the Mark Kovalsky procedure. Here is a link -- the only thing that's changed since this was written is that Ford changed the Mercon V spec and you can now run it in the 4R100.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...nsmission.html
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Why do you assume it has syn? Ford won't put syn in there, unless you tell them to (and pay for it!). Best method is the Mark Kovalsky procedure. Here is a link -- the only thing that's changed since this was written is that Ford changed the Mercon V spec and you can now run it in the 4R100.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...nsmission.html
Joe,

I think you need to re-read the OP. Now Mark is saying mercon V is not so great on some parts: http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...con-sp-235885/

That was encouraging when I saw that.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Joe,

I think you need to re-read the OP. Now Mark is saying mercon V is not so great on some parts: http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...con-sp-235885/

That was encouraging when I saw that.
But that was in a 5R110 (whick I believe uses Mercon SP)not a 4R100
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tdpower
Joe,

I think you need to re-read the OP. Now Mark is saying mercon V is not so great on some parts: http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...con-sp-235885/

That was encouraging when I saw that.
Thanks, Grant. I guess I sped past that part.......

And Ray is right -- he's talking about running Mercon V in a Mercon SP application. TOTALLY different than running Mercon V in an ex-Mercon application. The Mercon V spec has been changed and a TSB released allowing it for use in our 4R100s. I have been running it in mine for almost 2 years now. All good so far!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Joe, he's actually assuming Ford WOULDN'T put syn in the trans.

Originally Posted by MR5x5
The tranny was a Ford rebuild from two years ago (diode). I'm assuming it does not have synthetic in it.
Originally Posted by tdpower
Now Mark is saying mercon V is not so great on some parts: http://www.thedieselstop.com/forums/...con-sp-235885/

That was encouraging when I saw that.
Actually, like RBakes pointed out, that's for the 5R110 tranny.

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But that was in a 5R110 (whick I believe uses Mercon SP)not a 4R100
Stewart

EDIT: You clicked your mouse faster'n I did, Izz!
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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OK... Thanks for clearing that up about the tranny fluid applications. I still can't wrap my head around why it would be more sensitive in certain applications. Are those parts more prone to clogging up? Not to hijack the OP I think Jo's advice was the best idea.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Apparently, Mercon V has *A LOT* more ant-foaming additive in the form of small particles. Which is apparently fine in the 4R100, but those particles get lodged in the innards of the 5R110 in short order jacking it up.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
Apparently, Mercon V has *A LOT* more ant-foaming additive in the form of small particles. Which is apparently fine in the 4R100, but those particles get lodged in the innards of the 5R110 in short order jacking it up.
Thanks for clearing that up. Back to the OP.............
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 10:28 PM
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I drained and filled mine back up with regular Mercon. Harder to find these days, but it's still around. Like said, probably doesn't matter anymore though.
I can't remember if the 01s have a drain plug in the T/C or not, my 2000 did and it made draining very easy. I got more fluid drained from the T/C than I did the pan. I think I measured that I took out all but about 3 quarts. I decided that was good enough and didn't bother with that flush in the above link.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Just flush it, it is not that hard. Anything else is halfa$$ if you ask me.
 
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