Go NAVY!
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Go NAVY!
What a Ship! http://gizmodo.com/388227/uss-indepe...gly-affordable
http://www.instapinch.com/?p=1085
"In developing capability to overcome access denial threats from surface and subsurface threats in the littoral, the Navy sought improved mine warfare capability, an effective counter to small, fast, highly-armed boats, and a ship better suited against quiet diesel submarines. These capabilities highlighted the need for a high-speed, shallow-draft vessel with endurance. The littoral combat ships are designed to meet that need."
http://www.instapinch.com/?p=1085
"In developing capability to overcome access denial threats from surface and subsurface threats in the littoral, the Navy sought improved mine warfare capability, an effective counter to small, fast, highly-armed boats, and a ship better suited against quiet diesel submarines. These capabilities highlighted the need for a high-speed, shallow-draft vessel with endurance. The littoral combat ships are designed to meet that need."
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essentially that's the type of warfare they should (were somewhat intended) be used for....that and delivering amphibious troops (aka: Marines)
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Awesome! My coworker who is ex navy was talking about this ship today but I couldn't quite imagine what it looked like. I think he said the propulsion plant was two gas turbines. Thanks for the link! 
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Neat ship, but did you read the edit in the 2nd link that mentioned funding problems.
I've read other places about the Navy having some problems with these ships. Hope that they get it straightened out.
I've read other places about the Navy having some problems with these ships. Hope that they get it straightened out.
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I hope they have better luck with this design this time around. they tried it in the
1970's and had problems with the hull cracking when underway in moderate or heavy seas. seems there is quite a force generated trying to push the sections apart that wasn't thought of by the engineers. Those ships were all retired after just a few years cause they couldn't fix them.
1970's and had problems with the hull cracking when underway in moderate or heavy seas. seems there is quite a force generated trying to push the sections apart that wasn't thought of by the engineers. Those ships were all retired after just a few years cause they couldn't fix them.
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From what I hear from engineering buddys this second generation ship is much better. They have solved many of the problems that plagued the first gen ships. I remember the Navy's first Hydrofoil. My dad was an engineer working on the prototype. They flipped it over on Commencement Bay in Tacoma Washington trying to do a 90 deg turn at 60+ mph. That ended that project!
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Hmm, looks familiar to me. The ship in the link was built by Lockheed to check out stealth technology on a ship in 1985 and shown to the public in 1993. Spent years down in San Diego and some years in the Bay Area where I saw it on the Bay and once behind the Hornet for a week. Now it is sitting up in Suisun awaiting disposal or someone to take it as a museum ship. Rumor has it that the Hornet was working on an application for it to go to Alameda right behind the USS Hornet. I don't know why...?
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/...seashadow.html
http://www.usshornet-cv12.com
http://www.fas.org/programs/ssp/man/...seashadow.html
http://www.usshornet-cv12.com
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here is the FIRST one. when it was called the Joint Venture HSV-X1
http://sgtsandler.tripod.com/id19.htm
it was during the trial periods, when the army and then the navy would take it out to see how it operated and who, if anyone, wanted to purchase.
http://sgtsandler.tripod.com/id19.htm
it was during the trial periods, when the army and then the navy would take it out to see how it operated and who, if anyone, wanted to purchase.
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What was the length (beam) of the ship? I didn't see the dimensions of it. Any idea how much it displaces (weighs)? It looks like a great opportunity for the navy to enter the 21st century- although it will take a very long time to find something more effective than a nuclear powered aircraft carrier. What about crew quarters? Somebody sleeping when a ship makes a high speed maneuver would quickly find themselves in a different rack if they weren't properly in their own.
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It was designed as a fast attack ship for shallow waters, and would probably fit inside a nuclear carrier hanger...........Only has a crew of 40. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Independence_(LCS-2)
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bad link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Independence_(LCS-2)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Independence_(LCS-2)
It was designed as a fast attack ship for shallow waters, and would probably fit inside a nuclear carrier hanger...........Only has a crew of 40. More info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Independence_(LCS-2)