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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 05:31 PM
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what the?

http://denver.craigslist.org/cto/1335159181.html

Is any of that correct? LOL
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 06:08 PM
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i belive it would have to be a ranger to have the bucket seats. but from what i have learned if the seats are the mustang seats the truck might actually be worth the price just for the seats. But i know as a fact the 350 isnt original.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Guess it could be a Ranger, or just a truck with Mustang buckets. Would have to research it and check Vin # etc. There's been some conversation on here recently about a possible Ranger find. I'm sure others will chime in with more (and better) info.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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I think you could get enough parts off it to make it worth having. Seats and seat brackets are worth half the price of the truck. I see arm rests and door inserts that also can be reused. Might be a tank cover that could be reused depending on condition.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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If not the VIN#, maybe we'd know if we could see/read the red insert in the RH front fender emblem....

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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by drof46
Seats and seat brackets are worth half the price of the truck.
Huh? In whose world? Want to buy some nice Mustang seats? If they are in fact Ranger seats/brackets they may have a little more value than regular Mustang seats but not much more I would think. But out of a Ranger, they're pretty much Mustang seats. It's fairly easy to do a Ranger clone, but it is always going to be that...a clone.

Originally Posted by BarnieTrk
maybe we'd know if we could see/read the red insert in the RH front fender emblem....BarnieTrk
But, maybe we'd only know what the insert says now, not when it was built.

I think we've run off the "speculation" cliff with this. Seller doesn't put the truck up as a Ranger, all he/she says is that the buckets are original, but sellers have been known to be wrong about their vehicles. All in all, I think we would only know if it is in fact a "Ranger" is to look at the Vin #.

Who knows, maybe the 350(?) is really a factory-built 427.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Does as clone ride any different than a original? If you have some 65-66 seats drop me a line with some pics. I'll be doing another project after this one and will likely go with buckets again. The brackets I'm referring to are not the seat tracks, but the original brackets for the floor. A purist would likly be glad to pay that price if the title and cab are indeed from an original ranger. Guess one could always salvage a vehicle and have a door plate made and restamp a frame to really fool someone.
 
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Old Aug 21, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by drof46
Does as clone ride any different than a original? If you have some 65-66 seats drop me a line with some pics. I'll be doing another project after this one and will likely go with buckets again. The brackets I'm referring to are not the seat tracks, but the original brackets for the floor. A purist would likly be glad to pay that price if the title and cab are indeed from an original ranger. Guess one could always salvage a vehicle and have a door plate made and restamp a frame to really fool someone.
I know about the original brackets and yes, they are difficult to find. But I read your comment to say that the seats and brackets were worth $600 (1/2 the truck price). I didn't understand you meant if the truck was in deed a Ranger. If the truck is a Ranger with the accompanying Vin tag and frame Vin then a "purist" (an probably a lot of us sick slickster's) would probably pay top dollar for the whole truck.

As far as the last sentence, I'm not sure why anyone would want to go there. A clone is a clone (should be built for fun) and should be so identified to all. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 05:54 AM
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Seats may be valuable but you have to admit that camper shell is priceless. Really makes the truck look aerodynamic.
 
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Old Aug 22, 2009 | 07:43 AM
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Can anyone make out the hood emblem?
I'm wondering if it has a V8 or gear & lightening bolt design on it.
Maybe the 350 is really a 352?

Anyone from the area with some free time willing to check this one out?
We all just 'need to know' answers on this one!

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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BarnieTrk
Can anyone make out the hood emblem?
I'm wondering if it has a V8 or gear & lightening bolt design on it.
Maybe the 350 is really a 352?

Anyone from the area with some free time willing to check this one out?
We all just 'need to know' answers on this one!
No such thing as a 350 engine, at least in a Ford...that is.

The seller is clueless (so what else is new?). If it's the original V8 engine, it's a 352.

1965/66 F100/250 Rangers (ALL 2WD) included the Custom Cab package and came with...(among other things):

Bucket seats (same as 1965/66 Mustang-as is the upholstery), a center console (same as 1964/65 Falcon Sprint), full carpeting and a vinyl cover for the fuel tank.

The console appears to be missing.

(sigh) The VIN will NOT tell you diddly-squat whether the truck is a Ranger...or not. Won't tell you if it's a Standard, or Custom Cab, either.

In fact...it will not tell you whether it's a Styleside or Flareside pickup, Cab 'n Chassis, Platform (Flatbed), Platform & Rack (Stake Bed), or Open Drive-Away.

I'm surprised that some of y'all don't know this: 1965 = F10DR639XXX: F10 = F100 2WD / D = 352 2V / R = San Jose Assembly Plant / 639XXX = 1965, Assembled January 1965.

Where oh where...is anything in this VIN that decodes to Ranger, Standard or Custom Cab? No see um! This truck is an 8' Styleside 'Standard' Cab...at least it was when I bought it new.

The ONLY way to verify a true Ranger is by the BODY code.

There were three specific to Rangers only BODY codes in 1965 & 1966.

When decoded, the BODY code says "Bucket Seats" and what color and type of material the seats are.

1965 Ranger BODY code & bucket seat colors:

(F81) Black Crinkle all Vinyl

(G81) Red Crinkle all Vinyl

(H81) Palomino Crinkle all Vinyl.

1966 Ranger BODY code & bucket seat colors:

(T81) Black Crinkle Vinyl & Black Rosette Pattern Vinyl

(U81) Red Crinkle Vinyl & Red Rosette Pattern Vinyl.

(V81) Parchment Crinkle Vinyl & Parchment Rosette Pattern Vinyl.

btw: Don't go ga ga over Mustang bucket seats. They are not rare.

Consider this: There were 1,288,557 Mustangs made in 1965/66, which means the bucket seats are a dime a dozen, and EZ to find...even today.

The seat tracks are the same 1965/70. The upholstery has been reproduced, as have the seat outer mouldings.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
(sigh) The VIN will NOT tell you diddly-squat whether the truck is a Ranger...or not. Won't tell you if it's a Standard, or Custom Cab, either.
I'm surprised that some of y'all don't know this. The ONLY way to verify a true Ranger is by the BODY code.
I know that, I meant to say Vin TAG/PLATE not Vin #. You've taught me better than that!

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: Don't go ga ga over Mustang bucket seats. They are not rare.
No they aren't rare, but you wouldn't know it from the ads on e-bay (like a lot of things). You just have to be resourceful and not in a big hurry to find what you want/need at a decent price.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gritsngumbo
I know that, I meant to say Vin TAG/PLATE not Vin #. You've taught me better than that!
Look at the Mustang bucket seats in that tired and beat-up 'ol truck.

They match 1965 Mustang seats, cuz they are red all vinyl without the rosette pattern used in 1966.

IMO, with those 1965 seats, and the fact it's a 1965 truck, it's a real Ranger.

The 1965/66 Mustang buckets upholstery matches what the Rangers used.

But the Mustang seats are actually the same thru 1968 (the upholstery is not the same 1967/68), the seat tracks are the same 1965/70.

btw: Considering ALL the myriad reference material available today, if ebay buyers/sellers are clueless, it's Margaritaville = it's their own damn fault.

Look what a beetle-brained pinhead just bought a REPRODUCTION '65/66 sweep speedo instrument cluster BEZEL on ebay for: SIX HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS!

DC and others have the same puppy for FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS LESS!!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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I'm local and have an email in to the seller. Will let you know.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Got some info from the gentleman selling the truck. Data plate indicates Body Code E81. I suppose it's possible that the plate attached to the door is from another vehicle (after all, the truck is several colors and obviously some panels have been replaced over the years). Then again, the DSO is 51 (= Denver). But what the heck is Trans code "N"?
 
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